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Roadmaster

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09-01-2013 01:57 AM

Topic tags/keywords: question lathe turning

I do most of my woodworking to build things: benches, carts, useful pieces around the house. I never thought much of making bowls or spindles.

However, two things have caught my attention. First, turning pens. It seems so simple, and with a little bit of creativity, some really nice things can be made. I have visions of cranking out a dozen or more of these and Christmas presents for friends and extended family are done. Second, segmented turning. Plain walnut bowls are nice, but I’ve seen some mixed species bowls that are stunning.

I turned a couple of things in my father-in-law’s professional shop a couple of months ago and I was hooked. I’ve been watching lots of turning videos on line, and I bought a pen turning book. Now it’s time to buy a lathe.

I had been leaning toward a Delta 46-460 but the comments I’ve seen from all over about Delta’s customer support have me running scared. I didn’t care for the features of the Jet lathes until I discovered the 1221VS. I have a Jet JWBS-14CS bandsaw and it’s rock solid.

Anyone have an opinion on this for a novice? I have some basic turning tools (I bought a $70 boxed set on Amazon that seemed to work well for my first outing) though I need to decide on a sharpening method. Any suggestions there? How about lathe accessories that I’ll want to investigate soon?

Thanks in advance,
Kevin

-- ./kevin


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ScrubPlane

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#1 posted 09-01-2013 03:26 AM

Turning is an excellent sub-hobby to the woodworking genre. My favorite part is the immediate gratification…one can spend weeks or even months piecing together a traditional project but one can also complete a finished turned bowl or vase in a matter of hours.

I have the NOVA XR DVR and love it…an excellent tool for the homeowner hobbyist. That said…scour some YouTube ‘how to’ videos and you’ll many an expert turning on machines from the Rolls Royce end of the spectrum down to the POS variety…with equally great results. My suggestion…go with a platform that will allow you to stretch your imagination.

As for tooling…I have and recommend the Easy Wood Working tools with replaceable cutting bits. Perhaps a bit expensive in the long run…but then again, one doesn’t need to worry about becoming expert at sharpening.

As for other accessories…buy them as you need them but be prepared for numerous expenses…it is, after all, a pricey hobby.

Hope this helps…

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TheDane

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#2 posted 09-01-2013 06:06 PM

I have had a Delta 46-460 for a little over two years now, and love it.

The machine has been rock solid, and the only contact I had to have with Delta’s CS was regarding the rebate when I bought the lathe. There was a problem with some of the paperwork I submitted (wrong date due to a clerical error at the machine shop I bought it from) and Delta’s CSR fixed it with one phone call and a followup email.

I have two chucks … a PSI Utility chuck (tommy-bar design), and Nova G3 that Teknatool makes with Delta’s name on it. The Nova is a nice chuck, and is reversible.

I started out with a boxed set of Everex turning tools, supplemented with tools from PSI (Benjamin’s Best tools are pretty decent quality), Sorby, and John Jordan. I have two sharpening systems … a slow-speed grinder with a OneWay Wolverine system that I use for gouges, and belt sander (from Harbor Freight) that has been re-jiggered to function as a sharpening system … the HF belt sander does my skews, bedan, and scrapers.

I use carbide tools for some jobs … mostly roughing. IMHO you cannot get as smooth of a cut with carbide as you can with conventional HSS tools. I buy my carbide cutters from Eddie Castelin ( http://www.eddiecastelin.com ). Eddie sells cutter bars or you can make your own from steel available at the big box. The Easy Wood Tools look nice, but IMHO are expensive.

I buy the bulk of my sanding supplies from Vince Welsh ( http://vinceswoodnwonders.com/ ), and my CA glue from Starbond ( http://www.starbond.com/ ).

-- Gerry -- "I don't plan to ever really grow up ... I'm just going to learn how to act in public!"

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Gary

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#3 posted 09-01-2013 06:16 PM

Gerry, is “re-jiggered” a technical term?

-- Gary, DeKalb Texas only 4 miles from the mill

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TheDane

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#4 posted 09-01-2013 06:42 PM

Gary … Yup. Learned it from my Dad. That’s one of the things happens when you give a redneck an education.

-- Gerry -- "I don't plan to ever really grow up ... I'm just going to learn how to act in public!"

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Gary

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#5 posted 09-01-2013 06:44 PM

Gotcha. glad I learned something today

-- Gary, DeKalb Texas only 4 miles from the mill

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TheDane

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#6 posted 09-01-2013 07:01 PM

Gary—Full disclosure … I stole the ‘redneck with an education’ bit from Izzy Swan. But my Dad was, by his own admission, a redneck and he did have an education. Tomorrow we’ll explore the meanings of the word ‘skosh’.

-- Gerry -- "I don't plan to ever really grow up ... I'm just going to learn how to act in public!"

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RichCMD

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#7 posted 09-01-2013 07:13 PM

Actually, “rejiggering” is in the dictionary (Dictionary.com). So is “skosh”, which has a Japanese origin. I know these things because I am an sophisticated and educated hillbilly, what my father would have referred to as a mountain william.

-- Men admire the man who can organize their wishes and thoughts in stone and wood and steel and brass. Ralph Waldo Emerson

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Gary

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#8 posted 09-01-2013 08:09 PM

Gerry, I can’t wait

-- Gary, DeKalb Texas only 4 miles from the mill

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Wildwood

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#9 posted 09-01-2013 09:39 PM

Kevin, I like the Jet 1221 it is more beefier than the Delta. Either lathe would work well for turning pens, and other small spindles projects plus bowls.

There are a couple of reviews posted in Shops, Jigs, fixtures, & Tools section at this web site. Will have to usee search feature to find them. Nice site to browse or join if interested in penturning.

http://www.penturners.org/forum/

Recommend sharpening on a 6” or 8” bench grinder if have one already might look into buying some friable aluminum oxide wheels (white, pink, blue) for your grinder. If do not have a bench grinder already buy one locally about best advice can offer.

I bought a Wolverine Sharpening jig many years ago and recommend looking at basic system & Vari-Grind attachment.
http://www.packardwoodworks.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=packard&Product_Code=142611&Category_Code=sharp-wss

http://www.packardwoodworks.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=packard&Product_Code=142614&Category_Code=sharp-wss

You can also make your own sharpening jig or look at other commercial jigs, only know the Wolverine set up. If want repeatability every time you sharpen your tools a jig helps. While I can freehand sharpen my tools cannot do it consistently.

-- Bill

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Rick M.

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#10 posted 09-06-2013 01:50 AM

Everyone I’ve spoken to that owns a Delta 46-460 absolutely loves it and it received rave reviews as well. I wouldn’t worry too much about Delta, according to the internet they went out of business six months and raised prices by 50% a month after that.

-- |Statistics show that 100% of people bitten by a snake were close to it.|

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Roadmaster

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#11 posted 09-06-2013 11:57 AM

Thanks, guys. There are some great links here.

I have a ton of Lowe’s gift cards and they only sell the Delta, so I’m going to go with that one. I briefly investigated trying to sell them for other cards or money, but that was turning out to be a hassle. My inclination was originally for the Jet because it seemed the last pulley speed was more start-to-finish versatile, and the digital readout might have been nice to measure how fast the piece was turning. Neither feature should be a deal-breaker though.

-- ./kevin

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HorizontalMike

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#12 posted 09-06-2013 12:51 PM

”...I had been leaning toward a Delta 46-460…”

I took that plunge back in January of this year and am very happy I did. I did make the mistake of over cranking the dead center into the tail stock and got it stuck. My fault, but Delta stepped up and covered it under warranty and had me a new part in about 2-3 weeks. IMO, the fear Delta factor is old news and folks should get over it. Since them I love turning on this machine. Like Gerry, I have the 8-piece Benjamin's Best set from Penn State Industries. I also popped for the 3-set of Versa Chisels and actually use these most often. Great for us beginners!

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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Roadmaster

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#13 posted 09-06-2013 02:41 PM

It looks like I already have the same kind of turning tools you guys do: PSI Woodworking LCHSS8 HSS Wood Lathe Chisel Set, 8-Piece. I already knew they were decent because I tried them out in my father-in-law’s shop. He’s a full-time professional woodcarver, and he gave me his blessing on those, so I was good to go. ;-)

I ordered the Delta 46-460 from my Lowe’s, and it should be ready for store pickup later this month. They’re selling it for $907.86 and the web site says the stand is included. The price is pretty steep, but between discounts and rewards gift cards, I’m getting it for under $65 (+ tax).

Now I just have to make room in the shop for it!

-- ./kevin

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Wildwood

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#14 posted 09-06-2013 08:51 PM

Are you having fun yet? Good luck and happy turning with your new lathe!

-- Bill

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