LumberJocks

Cherry - Darkening, Finishing, Racing against time questions

  • Advertise with us

« back to Finishing forum

Forum topic by JustJoe posted 08-26-2013 12:15 AM 717 views 0 times favorited 11 replies Add to Favorites Watch
View JustJoe's profile

JustJoe

1554 posts in 694 days


08-26-2013 12:15 AM

8 days til I head across country and I got sucked into making a couple of surprise gifts (can’t say what, someone reads this, pics when I get back).

I got all the parts for the first one made and sanded today. Early tomorrow I will assemble it. That leaves the finishing.

It’s cherry, rather plain figured, and I’m going with the standard wipe on mixture of BLO/Mineralspirits/varnish with maybe a bit heavier on the spirits so it will dry fast and I can add a few coats. This is a finish I trust.

In 8 days it has to go 2000 miles in the back of a pickup and needs to be dry enough to be wrapped in something without getting fuzzy. (so no all-in-1 minwax this time.)

BUT. I want the cherry to darken as much as possible in this week too.

Can I put a coat of the finish on very early , and then as soon as it is dry to the touch put it out in the sunshine for a few hours, and then repeat with another coat that night and then morning in the sun, evening new coat etc? Or do I have to put it out in the sun and let it get all dark first, and then try and apply a finish and hope it dries?

And also – I’ve got those T-whatever fluorescent lights in my shop, the ones that are supposed to be as bright as sunshine. I’ve got 8 of them, enough to signal the space shuttle. If I leave them on overnight will that be like extra sunshine, or does the darkening only work with the real sun?

thanks in advance
Joe

-- This Ad Space For Sale! Your Ad Here! Reach a targeted audience! Affordable Rates, easy financing! Contact an ad represenative today at JustJoe's Advertising Consortium.


11 replies so far

View AandCstyle's profile

AandCstyle

1323 posts in 913 days


#1 posted 08-26-2013 12:38 AM

Joe, I don’t know, but I would guess that if you put the raw cherry in the Tucson sun early tomorrow AM (turning it periodically) that is would be almost as dark as it will get by noon. Then you can finish using your BLO/MS/varnish. FWIW

-- Art

View JustJoe's profile

JustJoe

1554 posts in 694 days


#2 posted 08-26-2013 12:43 AM

Do you think one day is going to do it? That would be great. I was thinking it would take 4-5 days of 12 hours a day. I couldn’t wait so I went out a few minutes ago and did the glue-up so whatever I need to do for the finishing/darkening, I can start as soon as the sun comes up tomorrow morning.

-- This Ad Space For Sale! Your Ad Here! Reach a targeted audience! Affordable Rates, easy financing! Contact an ad represenative today at JustJoe's Advertising Consortium.

View gfadvm's profile

gfadvm

10883 posts in 1346 days


#3 posted 08-26-2013 02:38 AM

Joe, The sun will darken it fairly quickly BUT I have had finish bubble up BAD when placed in the hot sun (or in front of my furnace) before it is cured. I would do BLO and lots of sun until you get the color you want and then shellac (wipe on a few coats and done). I have shellaced projects immediately after BLO and had no issues with the shellac drying rapidly.

-- " I'll try to be nicer, if you'll try to be smarter" gfadvm

View JustJoe's profile

JustJoe

1554 posts in 694 days


#4 posted 08-26-2013 02:12 PM

Thanks for the warning! – that would have been a disaster. I put it out in the sun a half hour ago. I’ll leave it there until noon. Then I’ll start applying BLO and if it’s not dark enough I’ll repeat again tomorrow. I probably won’t do shellac because I don’t want that type of a shine on this piece. I’m looking for more of a soft shaker-oiled feel. It will make more sense when I can post the pics. I do have some beeswax that would give it a nice sheen (It’s not something that will be handled a lot or get bumped around) but I’ve never used it and I’m not sure a rush job is the place to start.

-- This Ad Space For Sale! Your Ad Here! Reach a targeted audience! Affordable Rates, easy financing! Contact an ad represenative today at JustJoe's Advertising Consortium.

View gfadvm's profile

gfadvm

10883 posts in 1346 days


#5 posted 08-27-2013 01:27 AM

Joe, I used just BLO and wax on my Arkansas Cherry Table.Click for details

-- " I'll try to be nicer, if you'll try to be smarter" gfadvm

View JustJoe's profile

JustJoe

1554 posts in 694 days


#6 posted 08-27-2013 01:46 AM

How did you apply the wax, and how fast did it set up? I’ve got a block of beeswax the size of a couple sticks of butter but I’ve never used beeswax before. The first of the two items is now sunned, and oiled and it’s starting to look the way I want it. I figure a few more hours a day for a couple of more days will get the darkness I want.
The second item is almost assembled – I’ve got one more piece I need to make some cuts and route a few edges on, but I have done no finishing on any of it. 7 more days and I’m heading out.

-- This Ad Space For Sale! Your Ad Here! Reach a targeted audience! Affordable Rates, easy financing! Contact an ad represenative today at JustJoe's Advertising Consortium.

View gfadvm's profile

gfadvm

10883 posts in 1346 days


#7 posted 08-27-2013 02:09 AM

Joe, I use either Renissance or MinWax paste waxes and have never used a hard wax. I always try to let the BLO cure as long as I can before applying wax (a few days) and I keep rubbing off any oil that wants to ooze out with the sun treatment.

-- " I'll try to be nicer, if you'll try to be smarter" gfadvm

View JustJoe's profile

JustJoe

1554 posts in 694 days


#8 posted 08-27-2013 02:11 AM

OK. I’ll have to wait until I get out there to put any wax on.

-- This Ad Space For Sale! Your Ad Here! Reach a targeted audience! Affordable Rates, easy financing! Contact an ad represenative today at JustJoe's Advertising Consortium.

View JustJoe's profile

JustJoe

1554 posts in 694 days


#9 posted 08-28-2013 12:30 AM

2nd day in the sun and it’s darkening nicely. I’ve got the 2nd (larger) one assembled and just put the first coat of oil on. It was then that I could compare the two types of cherry – pre-sun and post-sun. I’m very happy with the way it darkened I am almost to stage 4 of the process. For those like me who prefer their lumber inexpensive, here are the five stages of cheap-cherry finishing.

(Stage 0 = rough cut)
Stage 1: Plane it flat, see the total lack of color or figure and say “Well, maybe if I add a little exotic hardwood as an accent I can make something decent with it.”

Stage 2: Add the first coat of finish (oil, varnish, lacquer, melted tar – it doesn’t matter) and say “Oy Vey das ist some ugly splotching nein?”

Stage 3: Add the second coat of finish and say “well I dunno, I guess I can live with this piece if I replace the light-bulb with something dimmer like a 40W, and keep the shades drawn.”

Stage 4: Let it darken a bit and as you apply the final coat the previously hidden figure comes into view. Now all of a sudden things change. The workshop lights turn into a disco ball and you’re all “Oooh baby that’s smooth. Come here often? What’s a pretty board like you doing in a workshop like this?”. (I’m so close to stage 4 I can taste the sawdust.)

Then there is the ever elusive stage 5. I can only aspire to stage 5. Someday when you least expect it, when you’ve given up all hope, it just magically appears.
Stage 5: The finish cures, the cherry darkens to just the right shade that matches everything and the figure pops. All the blemishes end up in hidden spots. Passing strangers see the majestic vision through the workshop window, slam on the breaks and yell:

Hootchie Mama that’s one purty piece! Git out Mabel, I done found me my new love! *

-- This Ad Space For Sale! Your Ad Here! Reach a targeted audience! Affordable Rates, easy financing! Contact an ad represenative today at JustJoe's Advertising Consortium.

View Randy_ATX's profile

Randy_ATX

676 posts in 1098 days


#10 posted 08-28-2013 01:57 AM

Great thread Joe. Just keep the lemon marmalade away from it. When are the photos coming?

-- Randy -- Austin, TX by way of Northwest (Woodville), OH

View JustJoe's profile

JustJoe

1554 posts in 694 days


#11 posted 08-28-2013 02:02 AM

I can’t post the photos until I’ve delivered the gifts because I want them to be a suprise. I leave next week to drive cross-country, and will be back two weeks after that so the middle of September I’ll post the projects.

-- This Ad Space For Sale! Your Ad Here! Reach a targeted audience! Affordable Rates, easy financing! Contact an ad represenative today at JustJoe's Advertising Consortium.

Have your say...

You must be signed in to reply.

DISCLAIMER: Any posts on LJ are posted by individuals acting in their own right and do not necessarily reflect the views of LJ. LJ will not be held liable for the actions of any user.

Latest Projects | Latest Blog Entries | Latest Forum Topics

HomeRefurbers.com

Latest Projects | Latest Blog Entries | Latest Forum Topics

GardenTenders.com :: gardening showcase