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Is the Avenger dado stack the same as the Oshlun dado stack?

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Forum topic by Nate1 posted 334 days ago 916 views 0 times favorited 13 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Nate1

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334 days ago

Greetings,

I have been reading lumberjocks for months and am loving it. Such an amazing community of individuals with a wealth of knowledge to share.

My question is whether the Avenger AV-69930 (http://www.amazon.com/Avenger-AV-69930-Stack-6-inch-8-inch/dp/B0001AGFXU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1377119908&sr=8-1&keywords=avenger+dado+blade) is the same blade as the Oshlun SDS-0630 (http://www.amazon.com/Oshlun-SDS-0630-6-Inch-Tooth-8-Inch/dp/B0012YILDQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1377119953&sr=8-1&keywords=oshlun+dado+blade+6%22)? I have read on here that the Oshluns used to be the Avenger. Due to the price and rating difference I am suspicious. Though I would love to save almost a third of the price.

Thank you gentlemen!


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knotscott

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#1 posted 334 days ago

AFAIK they’re associated brands. Some of the Avenger blades indicate softer carbide, but these two appear to be the same design and both state C4 carbide. Amazon’s pricing games can work both ways. The Oshlun shows a carrying case, but for $54, the Avenger looks like a buy to me. As inexpensive dado sets go, I know of nothing near the $50 mark that’s better right now.

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roofner

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#2 posted 332 days ago

I have the Oshlun and at the price hard to beat. I use it with my radial arm saw to cut dados for drawers works great really flat bottomed dados.

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knotscott

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#3 posted 331 days ago

Are u still here Nate?

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Rick Dennington

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#4 posted 331 days ago

I’ve never used either one of those brands…..I have 3 sets of dados…...Two 8” Freuds, and a 6” Delta…..

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Nate1

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#5 posted 331 days ago

knotscott,

Yes. :-)

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Nate1

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#6 posted 326 days ago

I purchased both as to find out if these are the same. So far I have unpackaged them and they appear to be identical. The Oshlun comes with a simple 1 sheet of instructions and has the max RPM listed as 9,500 while the Avenger has the max RPM as 5,500 according to the copy on the blades. That is the only difference I can find, besides the Oshlun has prettier exterior packaging and printing on the blade.

Boxes side by side

Boxes open. The foam are identical. Though the Oshlun does have a set of directions.

Packaging of the blades and chippers appears to be exactly the same.

Oshlun blade sitting directly on top of the Avenger blade.

Avenger blade sitting directly on top of the Oshlun blade.

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knotscott

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#7 posted 326 days ago

It could just be the camera angle, lighting, or my aging eyes, but to me it looks like the teeth on the Avenger are taller and thinner, while the Oshlun teeth are shorter and thicker.

It’s also interesting to me that these sets are based on the original Systimatic Superfine 42T 8” set, and it has nearly identical packaging…right down to the foam protection liners.

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Nate1

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#8 posted 325 days ago

Knotscott,
The teeth are the same angle/length, the photo is distorting perspective. I attempted to take a few pictures to demonstrate but was not able to capture it well. Though I did check, thank you for mentioning it.

The proof is in the pudding. My question for those with an expert eye, which one do you think is the Oshlun and which one is the Avenger? Granted the differences here are minute, then both made a very nice dado.

The photos below document a rip/crosscut in maple and a VC maple plywood. Both sourced from a lumberyard and not a local home improvement store. In the hardwood the dado is 5/8” x 1/2” and in the VC plywood the dado is 5/8×3/8”.

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AlaskaAviator

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#9 posted 325 days ago

For 50 bucks thats a not bad. I use all forrest blades and love the way they cut. But I think I paid a couple bills for it.

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knotscott

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#10 posted 325 days ago

Both appear to cut pretty well. On some pics, #2 looks to have a bit more tearout, on others #1 looks to have more. In all cases, #2 appears to have one cutter that leaves a tiny rut near the middle of the cut….not serious, and not uncommon with stacked dado sets, but mildy visible. The tiny “bat ears” along the edges are a trait of all the better stacked dado sets, and are due to the ATB grind of the outside cutters.

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Nate1

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#11 posted 320 days ago

To wrap this up…I agree both blades are pretty good cuts from $50 & $75 dado sets. #1 in the pictures above is the Avenger and #2 is the Oshlun. For $20 less I was seeing a better cuts from the Avenger. But this could be a luck of the draw kind of thing. If I re-setup both blades in my table saw (Craftsman “3hp” [1.5hp] 315 series) there is the possibility that the slide indentation on the Oshlun could go away or maybe even the Avenger would develop one. I did clean my arbor before installation and ensured proper seating of the blades and chippers. I just believe it may be more luck of the draw more than anything. They are both great dado stacks for the money.

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mbs

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#12 posted 320 days ago

Nice looking cuts for $50. Great pics. Thanks for sharing.

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knotscott

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#13 posted 319 days ago

Thanks for the update and the excellent demo pics Nate.

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