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Forum topic by DKV posted 08-19-2013 05:40 PM 1869 views 0 times favorited 24 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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08-19-2013 05:40 PM

Reading – Everyone should be able to read. If not, we would be back in the middle ages with only our political leaders and the church translating for us. Reading cursive should be mandatory since most of our leaders and church officials are pretty flowery. We should also be taught how to read between the lines. Essential for living in todays world.

Writing – I agree that everyone should be able to write. How else could we communicate on LJ’s?

‘Rithmetic – All students should go back to being forced to memorize tables and formulas.

History – We need to know why we are right and the rest of the world is wrong. How else but through indoctrination?

Geography – Ask any youngster the location of a country or the capitol. Again, memorization to the rescue.

English – Nothing but memorization here. Too many rules and nonsensical things not to have memorization. I’m including spelling here. We are notorious for our bad spelling. Also, we shouldn’t be able to make new words unless or course you are a scientist and discover something never before seen or experienced.

Nuns – All students should be taught by nuns. That way all of the above would have a chance of succeeding. No more “new” this or that. The old ways are the best ways. Rulers allowed when herding the little terrors through a school day…

Just my thoughts. You can all have your own thoughts but eventually you will see the widsom of mine…

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#1 posted 08-19-2013 05:46 PM

Corporal punishment or any form of physical punishment that involves the deliberate infliction of pain as retribution for an offence,should be allowed,what do you think? yes or no? lol.

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#2 posted 08-20-2013 12:58 AM

Sounds like my old primary school.

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#3 posted 08-20-2013 01:08 AM

I had a teacher in the second grade that was a former semi-pro softball player. Yes, she could swing. Ouch.

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#4 posted 08-20-2013 01:33 AM

In second grade, I had a nun who would hit kids with her crutches. When we went to a zoo, the baby elephant grabbed one her crutches in its trunk. We are all going to burn in Hell for laughing so hard. But, it was worth it to see the nun and the elephant fighting over the crutch.

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#5 posted 08-20-2013 05:51 AM

I forgot just one thing…woodworking shop is mandatory. Start with handtools and work to power tools.

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#6 posted 08-20-2013 04:19 PM

All older students should be forced to attend finishing school. To learn French polishing, of course!

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#7 posted 08-20-2013 04:47 PM

That has to be the worst pun on LJ ever. Finisherman, you should be ashamed at yourself :))

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#8 posted 08-20-2013 08:39 PM

And yet, I feel great! Go figure.

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#9 posted 08-22-2013 12:26 AM

I had 8 years of elementary school with the Sisters of Mercy (sometimes a bit of a misnomer) followed by 4 years of High School with the Christian Brothers. Brother Pat, who taught precalculus and calculus said they wore black for intimdation purposes. I got whacked a few times, but probably deserved a few more. All in all, I always felt safe and secure and received a first-rate education that has served me well through college and my career in engineering.

The old way of teaching (heat it, see it, and write it down) seemed to be very effective.

-- She asked me, "Who are you going to please with that?" I said, "Me."

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#10 posted 08-22-2013 12:59 AM

English – Nothing but memorization here.

Boy, you missed the mark on this one. Being able to write clearly and concisely in any language is a fundamental skill that should be encouraged. To do this you need to memorize some rules, but that is the basics, afterwards comes the reward of being able to write in an excellent manner.

Your statement is the equivalent of saying chemistry is nothing but memorization.

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#11 posted 08-22-2013 01:42 AM

I’m on board with the “Stick with what works” philosophy. Both my kids are in elementary school and it seems like every year the staff is trying to reinvent the wheel in regards to teaching and all because some wonk in a university somewhere said the old way wasn’t good enough. Having volunteered in my kid’s classrooms, I would also like to add that education starts at home-in those classrooms, it was always obvious which students had a parent (or adult of any kind) who cared, and which ones did not.

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#12 posted 08-22-2013 02:00 AM

Jorge, you’re missing my message. I’m talking about building a good foundation. I’m talking about elementary school. I’m not talking about high school, college or post graduate work. I’m talking about when to use commas. I’m talking about when to use an apostrophe. I’m talking about teaching the difference between you’re and your. I’m talking about parsing sentences. I’m talking about memorizing the rules for simple addition, subtraction, multiplication and division of fractions. I’m talking about… Anyway, I think you may now understand what I’m trying to convey. If not, let me know and I’ll try again. BTW, I don’t remember chemistry in grade school.

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#13 posted 08-22-2013 11:45 AM

You’re dreaming.
Common sense, as well as an old fashioned, good education, went south about 1970 A.D.
Stupidity now reins as a goal to achieve.

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#14 posted 08-23-2013 04:47 PM

Should kids memorize key positions or tables?

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#15 posted 08-24-2013 04:23 AM

I suppose “rithmatic” is one of my favorite rants. I’ll keep it short.

Nowadays’ children are taught how to figure out the answer to simple multiplication problems.

When I was in third grade we drilled the multiplication tables. Every Friday we had a little competition. We’d see who could pop out the answer to 6 times 9 the quickest.

Both my son and daughter struggled with the multiplication tables through the sixth grade. My daughter was still using the “tools” to figure out the answer. She’d draw 9 hash marks 6 times then count. Both of my children get really good grades. I could be wrong but I would say, stop teaching kids how to figure out simple tables and just grind those in. Teach them how to figure things out a little later. They can follow along faster and solve problems faster if they don’t have to use hash marks for every single aspect of “higher” math.

About corporal punishment – I’ve had my share. I’m not sure that the threat of the coach swinging his aerodynamic paddle had much impact on my behavior. Both of my kids put together have had fewer stings to the rear than I used to get in any one month period. I’ll just say that when I gave them a few stings, it made a noticeable impact. It was about the fact that they got stings rather than how hard or many. If my children need to be punished, I’ll take care of it.

Interesting topic. Ty for bringing it up.

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