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Forum topic by savan posted 08-19-2013 03:33 PM 1542 views 0 times favorited 6 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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08-19-2013 03:33 PM

Short version of the question is would you keep a Craftsman 113 series or Bosch 4000 and why?

I started my woodworking journey less than a year ago. I picked up a Craftsman 113 series saw (flex drive) and tuned it to so it works to my needs. I just finished my $100 aluminum extrusion fence upgrade after finishing my daughters twin bed with drawers underneath. It has served me well. I’m into this saw about $160.

A couple months ago I bought a broke down Bosch4000, shooting sparks like crazy. Otherwise body, table, and fence are in good condition. I’ve spent about $50 replacing the motor housing and bearings. Basically everything around the armature but I’ve still got sparks. I’ve just ordered the armature which I suspect will get this saw back in to racing form. In all I’ll be into the Bosch $200. Still a good deal for this saw I think.

I think what ever saw comes out of this will be my saw for a few years. I’m a hobbyist and cant really justify $500+ for a TS. In fact my workshop is my outdoor patio with tarps to cover bench tools that sit under eaves. Winter is coming, tools will go into storage in an already cramped basement, and woodworking will go dormant for me.

What saw suggestions do you have for me?
Keep the 113?
Keep the bosch?
Sell the lot and do another craigslist hunt? for another contractor saw? There’s a DW744 on our CL right now for $500 but as I said that’s more than I wanna spend…

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#1 posted 08-19-2013 03:43 PM

I’d sell the Bosch. The 113 is more versatile (unless portability is essential to you). Especially when working with sheet goods.

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#2 posted 08-19-2013 03:49 PM

The main thing I’m afraid of w/ the 113 is finding a replacement for the flexdrive motor when it goes kaput…

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#3 posted 08-19-2013 05:28 PM

If I was working in your situation, on a patio, keeping machines outside under tarps, moving to basement storage for winter, I think I would keep the Bosch IF I could get the sparks to stay inside. That frees you up to sell the 113 and probably pay for all your upgrades to both saws. Then I’d probably be motivated to design and build a portable workbench and some hand tool upgrades if those are needed.

I know I’m going to be down sizing very soon, so these things are on my mind a lot lately. I get more enjoyment out of building something by hand than I do with power tools. But, I also recognize the need to have some power to replace some of the functions of my aging self.

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#4 posted 08-19-2013 07:08 PM

The main thing I’m afraid of w/ the 113 is finding a replacement for the flexdrive motor when it goes kaput…

do what a poster on with a flex drive theat died. he turned the flex drive top and cabinet into an extension wing for another, belt drive, 113 he acquired off CL. i believe he also transferred some parts from the defunct flex drive unit to the “new” belt drive unit. belt drive 113s are better than the flex drive units.

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#5 posted 08-19-2013 08:01 PM

Get them both up and running, and see which one you like best, then sell the other. A full size saw typically has the lion’s share of advantages, but the flex drive isn’t ideal, and the portable may be more conducive to your situation.

I’m planning to snag a $50 Cman/Emerson 113.###### belt drive contractor saw tonight if he still has it. When you can’t justify spending family budget money on better tools, buying and selling parts or refurbing tools is one way to finance the tools you really want. I used to do it a lot, but have cut back since my shop is pretty well stocked now. Does hurt to check CL on a regular basis for those deals. Good luck!

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#6 posted 08-21-2013 05:55 PM

Well boys she’s ALIVE! The Bosch4000 fired up today with a new armature and brushes with no sparks and sounded like a dream!

That’s a $200 bargain for me!

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