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SurfHunter

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372 days ago

I’m looking to pick up a couple of hand planes for my garage shop, I feel so incomplete without even having one..

I’ll mostly be using them for small projects Blanket chests, small boxes, etc for the time being. M&T work as well.

I like to know what you guys would recommend that I start off with. I’m thinking that a good starting set for be would be:

Lie-Nielsen : Low angle jack plane, Low angle Adj block plane & Medium shoulder plane

Boy, I sure like the looks of that Veritas NX60 though..

At the moment my shop consists of :

Dewalt 735 Planer

Rikon 10-325 deluxe Bandsaw

Ridgid : Drill press, Oscillating Edge/Belt Spindle Sander and Ridgid 6 1/2” jointer

Bosch table saw, Miter saw I need them portable for jobsites.. love to have the room for a nice PM

Festool Domino 500

dewalt scroll saw

HF DC

Freud router table system w/ 3 1/4hp..

and of course not including all my power hand tools,, routers, sanders, nail guns, saw’s, etc etc etc..

I’m embarrassed to say that I don’t own any Hand planes.. Well. except a couple of pretty rusted up Stanley that my Grandfather gave me back in the day… Cheapies..

So I ask for you guys to please help me in decision on what would be best to get me started…

So I can use it on the 200BF of Black Cherry I just acquired.
100+ BDF of QS White Oak
100+ BDF Walnut
150 Pecan
Chinaberry, red cedar, cypress.. lol… I need to build a shed just for the lumber that I have scattered everywhere, but that’s a whole new thread.

TIA.
Dennis

-- It’s not the hours you put in, but what you put into the hours that count.


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JustJoe

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#1 posted 372 days ago

I’ll mostly be using them for small projects Blanket chests, small boxes, etc for the time being. M&T work as well.

Doing what? cleaning the edges of joints? Low angle block plane.
Smoothing the face of the wood rather than running it through a planer/sander? Smoothing plane, or maybe even a scrub plane if you’re starting from rough lumber.
Jointing the long edges prior to gluing boards together? Jointer plane
Or is it something else like –
Cleaning the cheeks of tenons?
Making fancy profiles?
Dadoes or rabbets?
Curved tops for treasure chests?
Big sections of end-grain smoothing like on a cutting board?
Displaying on a shelf?
Defense against werewolves?
I guess it all depends on what exact task you think you’re going to do with them. You can’t just say “I’m building a blanket chest so I need Plane X” because they don’t really make a “blanket chest plane.”
:)

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bondogaposis

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#2 posted 372 days ago

I would go w/ a low angle block plane, I know it is the most used plane in my shop. Once you get used to using and sharpened it then it will be time to look at a jack.

-- Bondo Gaposis

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#3 posted 372 days ago

I’d say you’ll definitely want a smoothing plane, almost regardless of what exactly you plan on doing. Others will certainly disagree. I also agree with block plane and jack plane, but a jack could be unnecessary considering you have a 735. Personally, I have a 735 as well, and:

smoothing plane (#4)
jack plane (#5)
“scrub” plane (#5 with heavy camber)
block plane (#60 1/2 LA)
Fillester plane (#78)
jointer plane (#7)

I am probably forgetting some of the others.

As Joe said, you really need to know what task you plan on using a handplane for, and get the appropriate one for that. Since you have a power jointer already, you probably won’t need a #7. Since you have a planer, you probably won’t need a #5. Don’t buy them because they are status symbols, buy them because you enjoy using them and they help you with a task. Or, buy them because they are status symbols. So, a better question would be something like, “I want to be able to…, what plane do I need for that?”

For defense against werewolves, I use a vintage Stanley #1 in my left hand, and a dull Buck Bros #4 in my right. Werewolves hate contrast. But I am left handed. Obviously, it would be flipped for a righty. That’s just what worked for me in the past.

-- Bailey F - Eastern Mass.

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SurfHunter

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#4 posted 372 days ago

Thanks for your reply Joe, I guess I should’ve elaborated a little more, but the phone rang and I hit the post button.

I’m surprised you didn’t mention shaping finger/toenails. ;)

I would most likely need it for pieces that I wouldn’t feel comfortable running through the planer..

and pretty much cleaning up edges for glue up’s, no radius’ or fancy edges.

yes, for flattening and smoothing cupped boards.. maybe the occasional rough lumber. I was thinking of the low angle package with the toothed blade set..

Since i’m limited with the jointer bed at 6 1/2 I’d like to be able to also smooth one side before using the planer.

-- It’s not the hours you put in, but what you put into the hours that count.

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Tim

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#5 posted 372 days ago

Show us some pictures of those Stanleys. They may not be as bad as you think and you can clean them up into something usable as long as the rust hasn’t pitted too deep. There’s lots of advice here on LJ about cleaning up old rust buckets and ending up with gems.

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Tugboater78

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#6 posted 372 days ago

+1 to what Tim said, lots of us with minimal effort have made some real users from rusties, with minimal effort.

-- Justin - the tugboat woodworker - " nothing changed me like the first shnick from a well sharpened, decent hand plane"

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Smitty_Cabinetshop

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#7 posted 372 days ago

Start with a jack, then a jointer, then a low angle block, then a large shoulder plane. Smoother you likely have from grandad.

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive

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Don W

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#8 posted 372 days ago

I’d start with grampa’s Stanleys.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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TerryDowning

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#9 posted 372 days ago

Go with Grandpa’s rusty oldies.
Even an old rusty handyman can be made into a decent user.

I know I have a #3 I rehabbed and it does the job. Not as nice or pleasant to use as my Miller’s Falls Smoother. But certainly a serviceable user.

-- - Terry

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JayT

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#10 posted 372 days ago

Reasons to use Grandpa’s planes before getting others

  • You already own them, so there is no additional cost involved
  • Restoring a plane will teach you a lot about how they function and what to look for when buying others
  • Connection to family history
  • Free planes!!!
  • Preserving/restoring tools before they rust away is cool.
  • Lots of opportunities to post pics for us LJ planeheads to ooh, ahh &/or drool over.
  • Did I mention you won’t be out any money to start with those?

-- "The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money." Alexis de Tocqueville, 1835

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WayneC

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#11 posted 372 days ago

I’m agreement. Before you invest a bunch of money figure out how to sharpen and tune. Also you will need to expend some money for sharpening supplies / jig / machines depending on what approach you choose. Even most brand new high end planes do not come shipped sharp.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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TerryDowning

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#12 posted 372 days ago

And even if they do come razor sharp they won’t stay that way. You’ll need to invest in sharpening anyways.

-- - Terry

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SurfHunter

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#13 posted 372 days ago

Thanks everyone for your replies, I’m going to have to climb into the attic and take a look to see Planes I have from Grandpa’s tools.. I have his handsaw’s that he built his house with, hanging on the wall in my shop that I look at daily.

I think I’m going to go with the LN LA Block plane & the LA Jack plane Complete package to start with..

I also forgot to mention that I barter work with a lot of friends and family. and one of my buddies wants to remodel a bedroom in his house, so I’ll have him pick these up for me..

Last year, it was the Domino 500 Q set w/ Systainer kit

-- It’s not the hours you put in, but what you put into the hours that count.

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chrisstef

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#14 posted 372 days ago

Id also like to see the handsaws that were Grandpa’s. Im half way cleaning and sharpening up my grandfathers old saws at the moment. Lot of pride invested in those old tools.

-- "there aren’t many hand tools as awe-inspiring as the #8 jointer. I mean, it just reeks of cast iron heft and hubris" - Smitty

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BTimmons

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#15 posted 372 days ago

” I have his handsaw’s that he built his house with, hanging on the wall in my shop that I look at daily.”

That’s got to be both humbling and inspiring. Post pictures of the old man’s tools once you dig them out!

-- Brian Timmons - http://www.BigTWoodworks.com

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