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Forum topic by BentheViking posted 08-12-2013 07:27 PM 1072 views 0 times favorited 6 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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BentheViking

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08-12-2013 07:27 PM

Topic tags/keywords: oak spray gun finishing refurbishing question

So I’ve been working on these cabinet doors during my days off for nearly 6 months (holy crap I just realized that). I am finally on the finishing stage.

I did a first coat of Kilz oil sprayed which were sanded afterwards. I am not spraying SW Proclassic latex enamel. I’ve got a first coat on a number of the doors and the porous oak graining is showing through quite a bit and I didn’t expect that. Looking back on it I probably should have guessed that and pre-filled the wood grain, but I didn’t, so now I am stuck. Should stop paint and try to fill? Should I keep painting and sanding between coats? Should I stop and reprime and make sure I get it nice and thick?

I’m ok with spending time sanding between paint coats if that will work, I just need to figure out a way to get a nice and smooth coat on these suckers!

-- It's made of wood. Real sturdy.--Chubbs Peterson


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#1 posted 08-12-2013 08:50 PM

Is the Kilz you used for a primer the shellac based product?
If it is, a great filler for oak is shellac mixed with fine oak sawdust, and shellac can always be covered with more shellac.

The one(s) you top coated, I’m not so sure. May have to strip those. Ask SW what they recommend. I’m sure it will be a SW product, but just more input.

-- Michael: Hillary has a long list of accomplishments, though most DAs would refer to them as felonies.

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#2 posted 08-13-2013 02:04 AM

I don’t think it was a shellac kilz. its whatever they sell in the spray cans at lowes. I really hope I don’t have to strip those. its been such a process to get this far I think I’d just live with it.

-- It's made of wood. Real sturdy.--Chubbs Peterson

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#3 posted 08-13-2013 01:28 PM

Put a dot of denatured alcohol on an inconspicuous place and see if it gets soft and tacky after awhile. Alcohol dissolves shellac, but not varnish, poly or enamel.

-- Michael: Hillary has a long list of accomplishments, though most DAs would refer to them as felonies.

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#4 posted 08-13-2013 02:08 PM

Shellac based Zinnsser primer is called B-I-N…shouldn’t be hard to identify. I think what you want to do will work (technically), but I would bet anything you will loose detail in your doors, like around any profile you may have cut. Besides, sanding an oil based primer down is a royal pain. That said, I’ve filled quite a bit of oak grain with finish, like table tops and such,. The way I would get a glass smooth surface, using varnish, is to put down a few coats/let it sure/sand it smooth and repeat. I’m sure that would work with paint, I’m also sure it will be a lot harder to do. My table tops were just a flat smooth surface with no profiles or edges to work around. I think your best bet (which will still be tough to do) would be to strip and start over.

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#5 posted 08-13-2013 04:34 PM

I would do a test in an inconspicuous area. Try sanding and topcoating. After a couple coats you may be pleasantly surprised how well the paint filled the grain.

-- Willie, Washington "If You Choose Not To Decide, You Still Have Made a Choice" - Rush

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#6 posted 08-16-2013 02:07 AM

letting it cure all week and then trying to sand between coats next weekend hoping that fills the grains better

-- It's made of wood. Real sturdy.--Chubbs Peterson

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