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retiree

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08-12-2013 07:05 AM

Topic tags/keywords: jointerplaner

My MiniMax FS-350 jointer/planer motor burned up and I can’t get a replacement. I’m now looking for a replacement J/P machine. I saw MiniMax 41 J/P w/mortiser on this site, but being new to this forum, I couldn’t find the email for the seller in California. Requesting help in navigating your site. I’m located in SW Missouri.

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#1 posted 08-15-2013 11:35 PM

The “search lumberjocks” towards the top right hand side of the screen is a great search engine. have you tried it?

Sorry to hear about your motor. Surprised you cant replace it.

Good luck

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#2 posted 08-15-2013 11:41 PM

If you’re talking about this one, the thread says it’s long gone, sold out.:
http://lumberjocks.com/topics/43059

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#3 posted 08-17-2013 03:21 PM

what does the motor/mount look like? I find it hard to believe you can’t have a motor adapted to fit. I don’t know anything about minimax machines but it looks like a quality machine, and worth making a motor fit in it to keep it alive.

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#4 posted 08-17-2013 04:15 PM

Thanks guys for the advice. As a newbie on this site, I can use all the help I can get. Since I don’t know how to post pictures, I’ll describe the motor’s mounting plate. All measurements will be in reference to the motor’s orientation (fore & aft axis) as though you’re looking down at a plan view, motor pulley situated away from viewer.
Plate is made with 4mm thick steel; overall dimensions L to R = 225mm; Front to Back = 214mm. The front-right side has a 33mm fore & aft cutout in it. The remainder of the right side is bent down 90 degrees creating a flange that’s 38mm vertical(this is not part of the overall dimension) & has two bolt holes for mounting plate to infeed end of machine’s body, thereby holding the plate & motor horizontally. The motor hangs underneath the plate by four bolts. Space between bolt holes (on center) L to R = 160mm and Fore & aft = 140mm. The forward edge of the plate has a threaded hole for a small belt tension adjustment bolt.
If I used a USA built motor, would I have to change the control switches? I can always drill new holes in the mounting plate to match the base of another motor, but I’m totally at a loss about the electrics. Also, I’d only have a choice of 3 or 5 HP in US built motors to replace the 4HP, 3KW, 60Hz, 230V, 3520RPM motor with 28mm shaft. Thanks again for any help.

-- retiree

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#5 posted 08-17-2013 04:25 PM

If you want to run a mortiser off it, you need a reversing circuit,
which complicates the wiring in this sort of machine.

You can have the sheave currently on the motor bored out
to fit the shaft of your replacement motor, or get another
sheave if that’s easier, since 28mm is a bigger shaft than
a lot of common 3-5hp motors have.

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#6 posted 08-17-2013 04:33 PM

If you were happy with the machine in which the motor “burned up”, you might consider having the motor rewound by an electric motor rebuild service. I had this done once with a machine that had a custom motor built in. Not cheap, but probably less than a totally new machine.

Planeman

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retiree

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#7 posted 08-19-2013 07:35 PM

I’ve found an IEC metric motor that would fit my mounting plate. The problem is, it’s a 3-phase motor and I don’t have 3-phase power in my shop. Also, I’m not clear if there’s a need to use different control switches if I choose to use a 3-phase motor with a phase converter. It’s interesting that the guys at a local electric motor shop looked at my motor and exclaimed; “That looks like a 3-phase motor—but it isn’t!” It’s definitely wired as a single-phase motor that runs on 230V, 60Hz current.
By the way Planeman40, is it a mathematical certainty that the Other Half of the people in this country are above average? Did you also know that 75% of statistics are wrong? But, I digress. Thanks for the suggestion. I already checked on that possibility.

-- retiree

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#8 posted 08-19-2013 07:40 PM

You can run a 3 phase motor easily enough with a VFD,
plus it allows reversing. You bypass all the controls on
the machine and control the motor directly through
the VFD.

That said, I recommend a rotary phase converter because
it has less to go wrong with it than a VFD. Again, though,
if you need a reverse capacity that needs to be wired
in somehow if you go to the 3 phase motor and yes,
you will probably have to replace the switches. I am
not sure, but I think some relays and switches designed
for 3 phase will work with single phase, but single
phase switches will not generally work with 3 phase.
The manufacturer may have used 3-phase compatible
switches on your machine though.

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#9 posted 08-19-2013 08:00 PM

Have you been in contact with SCM to see if that motor is used on any of their other machines? Specifically one of the combination machines.

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#10 posted 08-19-2013 08:30 PM

Thanks Loren & Renners for the suggestions. At the outset of this problem, I was in conrtact with SCM. However, I didn’t specifically ask if my motor is used on any of their other machines. I just assumed that they didn’t since all the new combo machines use a 4.8 HP motor and mine is rated at 4 HP.

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#11 posted 08-19-2013 08:33 PM

Might be the same size and mount though.

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#12 posted 08-19-2013 09:05 PM

I don’t think it would be too hard to adapt another motors mounting brackets to fit your needs, would it?

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#14 posted 08-20-2013 03:00 PM

In addition to finding a solution for my FS-350 motor problem, I’m looking at other replacement machine possibilities. I saw the unfamiliar name Baileigh and found that it’s a line of Chinese-made machines. Have any of you had any experience with this line? They have the advantage of being priced cheaper than other makes. But I wonder about the quality.

-- retiree

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#15 posted 08-20-2013 03:23 PM

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