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Ty68

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08-12-2013 07:04 AM

We just had a contractor build a Butchers Block Counter Top…We provided Walnut that we had purchased for shelving to the contractor for him to also laminate and build shelves as part of the contract. He initially told us that the wood he would require for the butcher block could be obtained from cuttings from previous jobs and would add to it if necessary. Instead he used the full shelving boards and stated upon delivery that all wood was used and needed to bill for more. The amount of wood that we provided to the contractor was as follows:

6×4 75 linear feet
8×4 62 linear feet
12×4 30 linear feet

The final job was a total area of 28.5 square feet of countertop.

The contractor billed us for ADDITIONAL 25 BF of wood on top of the wood purchased for the job.

My question is does this seem like an excessive amount of wood. The countertops are 1 inch thick and only on layer top to bottom and then layered in 1.25 inch increments from front edge to back edge. Contractor stated that he got 6 cuts per 12 inch wide board.

The concern is the contractor was a bit erratic in his behavior and we are now very concerned about the extra billing and where all the wood went. We purchased about $2000 worth of wood for him to use on this job.

Advice or insight?


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crank49

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#1 posted 08-12-2013 01:33 PM

When you say, ”12×4 30 linear feet” do you mean 12” wide x 4 quarter thick, or 12” wide x 4” thick?
If it’s the former, you had 108 board feet and if it’s the latter, you had 435 board feet.
I never saw wood described like this so I’m a little confused.

28.5 sq. ft. of counter top, 1” thick would require ~29 board feet x 2 (waste factor) = 58 board feet.

But you also confused me with the description of the counter top when you said, ”counter tops are 1 inch thick and only on layer top to bottom and then layered in 1.25 inch increments from front edge to back edge”.
Huh?? Is the top 1” or 1 1/4” thick?

Where do the shelves come into this picture? Did the contractor use the wood you bought for the shelves to make the counter top also? Did the contractor build the shelves. How many shelves, what size?

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rrww

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#2 posted 08-12-2013 03:34 PM

Are you saying that the top laminated (edge grain showing) in 1 1/4” strips (so when you look at it from the top down each strip is 1 1/4” wide).

Waste is something to consider – how was the lumber purchased? Was is rough cut, S2S, S4S. Straight line ripping can add up to a lot of waste. The counter top was made thicker than 1” after being glued up is was surfaced down to 1”.

Grade of lumber is a factor – if the lumber was lower grade to start with you will have more waste.

My current sales price of a walnut counter top that size would be $1852 all said and done. Basic shape, nothing fancy.

In order to help you a little more we need some clarification on the amount of wood you actually bought, like crank said the way you have it wrote down makes it a little confusing.

Either way it seems to me that $2000 should buy you a pretty good pile of wood. Do you know the board foot price? If you bought the lumber by the L.F. the thickness and width should be specified. We need those numbers. I would assume the lumber was thicker than 4/4 if the laminated strips are 1 1/4” thick. So anywhere between 6/4 and 8/4? If they were 4” thick that wouldn’t make a whole lot of sense to me.

I’m not sure where or how the shelves play into the counter top. We need total sizes of all items built with this lumber to determine how much was used for the entire project.

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tefinn

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#3 posted 08-12-2013 11:13 PM

Pictures would also help a lot. That way we can see exactly what was made from the wood.

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Don W

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#4 posted 08-12-2013 11:21 PM

I agree with what has been said so far. There needs to be more detail. First an additional 25 board feet isn’t a lot of lumber by any stretch. And if you paid $2000 for the list you show, I think somebody else seen you coming as well.

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TravisH

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#5 posted 08-13-2013 01:09 AM

Did you buy this wood at Menards? The Mastercraft Solid Walnut (may be edge glued) Select Grade sanded smooth shrink wrapped individual boards to be exact.

I have a board of walnut and maple a guy gave to me for cutting boards. 1×6x4 (3/4” x 5 1/2” x 48”) and then I thought they had the width/length sizes you listed also but haven’t paid too much attention to their hardwoods because of overall price. I could see where the price was 2k if this is the case.

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