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254 days ago

Need some help and want your advise. I am in the market for a new table saw and have been looking everywhere reading reviews. I will mostly be using the saw for making furniture (still a novice but don’t want to limit myself and have to upgrade anytime soon). I am a Marine and move every few years so I have decided to go with a 110v because I know I won’t always have the ability to install a 220v outlet. Right now I have narrowed down my search to the Jet ProShop with cast iron top (either 30” or 52”), the Laguna Fusion, the Grizzly Hybrid G0715P. Wanted to get your thoughts on these saws and am wide open to other suggestions. Biggest concearn is not limiting myself by getting a saw I won’t be happy with in a few years. Also, your thoughts on the need for a 52” rip capacity vs a 30” or 36”.


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knotscott

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#1 posted 254 days ago

Those are all solid choices for a 110v saw. I’d add Baleigh (same as the Fusion) and General International to the list, and possibly Steel City. Grizzly tends to offer the most bang for the buck due to being direct importers with no dealer markup. A good used saw is always an option too….less depreciation, so it’s easy to resell and recoup your orginal investment down the road.

I’ve never had the need for 52” rip capacity, but it never hurts to have extra capacity if you have the room and the budget. If you don’t have the room, it can be a heck of an obstacle and it’d be a shame to cut down rails that you paid extra for. AFAIK, these are all left tilt saws so there’s little need to ever cut anything with the fence to the left side of the blade, meaning you can always slide the rails to the right to gain more capacity.,,,usually around 10 extra inches is possible…. http://lumberjocks.com/knotscott/blog/34563

Good luck and please keep us updated.

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#2 posted 254 days ago

of the saws noted, i’d look to the griz 715. i’d also look at a ridgid 4512. it’s a well built saw that has scored well in a few WW magazine comparative tests. lots of features and, if a HD can be found that will honor harbor freight’ “20% off any single item” coupon, it may be had for $400. and it’s LSA (free repairs, parts and labor, for life) can’t be beat.

should you wish to avail yourself of 220v operation where it isn’t readily available, shopnotes magazine noted this unit appears to work quite well:

http://www.quick220.com/220_catalog/voltage-converters.html

hope this helps.

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Loren

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#3 posted 254 days ago

Band saw is more useful for furniture.

I suggest a track saw setup like Eurekazone for cutting
sheet goods. Then you cab use a smaller table
saw for cutting tenons, dados and rabbets if you
want to do it that way, crosscutting smaller parts
and ripping shorter pieces.

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knotscott

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#4 posted 250 days ago

Where’s this OP in this thread? It’s polite to participate in your own thread, plus you’ll get more input.

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#5 posted 250 days ago

He might be fishing.

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#6 posted 250 days ago

with the concern of moving around I would stay with the smaller fence

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#7 posted 250 days ago

If I wasn’t so tired I would be fishing, the salmon are running.

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flyfisherman85

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#8 posted 250 days ago

My apologies on not responding. Currently deployed and dont get a lot of internet time. wishing I was fishing. I appreciate all the advise. The grizzly hybrid really has my attention but like I said before I don’t want to settle based solely on price. Jet ran a sale back in June for 20% off. Hopefully they will run it again. How does the grizzly fence compare to that of the jet’s? Also, I think sliding the fence to the right on a 30” has convinced me not to get the 52. Thanks

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#9 posted 250 days ago

I have a 30” and at that point, I’d just as soon use a circular saw. Unless you have outfeed and infeed help, manipulating full sheets on a small saw is very awkward.

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#10 posted 250 days ago

I left the USMC in 2003. At that time, most of the bases had pretty nice “hobby shops”, complete with professional quality cabinet saws. Lejune had a P-matic. That said, you might consider buying a smaller contractor saw, and using the base shop for bigger projects. Bring your own blades though, and don’t leave them behind.
While the USMC will pay to move your machines every few years now….you’ll eventually come back to the “real world” and have to move that beast yourself. LOL. Food for thought.
S/F

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#11 posted 250 days ago

I was recently in the same boat you are now in. I took a hard look at all the same saws and ended up going with the Grizzly 0713. I did not look at the 0715P very long because the amp requirements are slightly higher on a 2 hp saw than on 1.75 hp saws, so I limited myself to the 1.75 hp saws. It’s a decent saw but has some drawbacks some of the other saws don’t have. The style of the 0713 is the new style contractor saw with the motor inside the cabinet with table mounted trunnions. Dust collection on this saw is not the greatest, but it has decent fence, nice blade guard design and riving knife. I will tell that I wish I would have just spent a little extra money and gotten the Laguna Fusion (at the time Baileigh was not available). Toolie suggested that you consider the R4512 but I would have to respectfully disagree with him. Only because your saw purchase does not seem to be limited by your budget. I had the R4512 for a day but knew that I was not going to be happy with it and I let the price initially cloud my judgement.

I think Baileigh is running a sale right now so I would give the TS-1044H a hard look. I think there have been concerns in the past with Laguna’s CS. I know you can buy the Laguna’s at Rockler and maybe even Woodcraft but you will probably have to pay tax and shipping on top of that if you can’t pick it up.

I hope that helped a little. Good luck and be safe on the rest of your deployment.

James

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#12 posted 250 days ago

You owe no apologies for being deployed. Thanks for your service.

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#13 posted 250 days ago

How does the grizzly fence compare to that of the jet’s?

if you want to seriously overspend on a new tool, jet and powermatic are the brands to go for. long on promise, short on delivery and high prices make them extremely poor values, IMHO. a comparable grizzly will do what ever a jet or p-matic will do; it’ll just do it for considerably less cost, leaving more in your pocket for other tool purchases.

and consider the last wood magazine 3 hp cabinet saw test. delta and sawstop took top tool honors. grizzly took top value honors. jet and powermatic finished out of the money.

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flyfisherman85

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#14 posted 249 days ago

Ill take a look at the Baileigh. Not familiar with the brand. The Laguna Fusion does have the cabinet mounted trunnion which essentially makes it a cabinet saw if I’m not mistaken. If the Balieigh is the same then it might be worth a hard look. Anybody know why the Grizzly Hybrid is cheaper than the Grizzly contractor? Between the Grizzly 0713 and the 0715, which is the better saw?

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Loren

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#15 posted 249 days ago

I’d go for the cabinet style saw unless you need the
portability factor of a saw with a stand.

In terms of trunnions, it matters more when the blade
is tilted. Softer pot metal trunnions wear quicker
and this causes slop and healing of the blade when
it is tilted and perhaps rougher tilting in terms of the
“feel” at the handwheel. The arbor runs better
on a saw with 80 lb. trunnions, sure, but that’s
not the only way to build a good saw (my slider
has a pivot pin, nothing I would call a trunnion
but the accuracy at all angles is cherry enough
for woodworking).

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