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Forum topic by BCNabe posted 08-12-2013 07:02 AM 1859 views 0 times favorited 5 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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08-12-2013 07:02 AM

I’m building the cabinets for our kitchen remodel and have several double doors.

I don’t want to have a fixed astragal (faceframe) in the middle where the doors meet because in some instances the double doors are in a pantry and I want to have one large opening when the doors are open.

Nor do I want to put a fixed astragal on one of the doors because then you always have to make sure you open or close one door first and then the other door.

We have a china hutch that we purchased and it has some spring loaded hardware on one of the doors that then has a small strip of wood attached to it. When the door is shut the strip of wood pivots to look like an astragal. With this hardware we can open either door.

Does anyone know where I can get this pivoting astragal hardware?

I’ve checked Rockler and Woodcraft and googled it but I’m not coming up with anything.

Thanks in advance!


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#1 posted 08-12-2013 10:30 PM

I can’t believe nobody has answered this yet so I’ll just type a few words and bump it up to the top of the list….

I have never heard of such a neat thing. But if you have it on a china closet, then they must exist! I googled “pivoting astragal” and found kind of what you’re describing, but not in wood:
http://www.doorcloser.com/acatalog/Astragals.html

I tried for “pivoting astragal wood” and got this, but it seems like it’s for entryways?
http://www.enduraproducts.com/product-overview/astragal/veneer-wrapped.aspx

And inerestingly enough (at least for me) Pemko seems to make them along with other specialty products for the loony bin (or what they call “behavioral healthcare solutions)
http://www.pemko.com/assets/literature/documents/2012-6%20PEMKO%20Astragals%20and%20Meeting%20Stiles%20Section.pdf

Maybe if you post a pic of the china closet door, someone here will say “oh yea! I have one of those, but I call it something else…”

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#2 posted 08-13-2013 02:37 AM

Thanks Joe.

Here are a few pictures (my first time so I hope I do it right).

It’s pretty simple but works well. The hinge part is spring loaded so when we open the door the astragal flips out of the way. You can’t see it in the pics but at the top of the cabinet opening there is a plate screwed into the cabinet and when the astragal hits that plate it flips the astragal so that it closes the gap between the doors.

In looking at again I’m wondering if a spring-loaded hinge is all I need.

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#3 posted 08-13-2013 02:43 AM

Instead of an entire astragal why don’t you just put some small blocks with magnets on the top and bottom where the door meets the cabinet face then you can eliminate the astragal altogether.

-- Nick, “I am always doing what I cannot do yet, in order to learn how to do it.” – Vincent Van Gogh

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#4 posted 08-13-2013 02:46 AM

That looks a lot like a normal hinge with a spring. I can see why you want the strip of wood back there though, it conceals the gap between the two doors.

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#5 posted 08-13-2013 03:12 AM

Here are some options, no springs though I think:

http://www.hardwaresource.com/hinges/CABINET+HINGES/Surface+Mounted+Cabinet+Hinges/3|8%22+Offset+Hinges

IIRC, Hafele sells a hinge that will do what you want. It
may take some digging through specs to figure it out.

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