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Don Broussard

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08-11-2013 07:48 PM

I have an unexpected visitor in my shop:

Stopped me dead in my tracks. Okay, I might be a bit of a wussy when it comes to snakes. I don’t want to kill it if it’s a good snake, but I do realize that most snake identifications are made on dead snakes. I think it’s either a rat snake (keeper) or a water moccasin (not a keeper). I couldn’t get him to look at me so I could get a good look at his face (I don’t think he understood English) so I only have these two pics to show. It’s about 4 feet long and about 1-1/2” to 2” around.

He didn’t move at all when I moved a few things to snap the pics, so I’m guessing it’s resting before tonight’s hunt. I don’t think I’ll be working in the shop after dark:30 until he and I can come to an agreement . . .

Anybody out there can help identify this visitor?

-- People say I hammer like lightning. It's not that I'm fast -- it's that I never hit the same place twice!


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whitebeast88

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#1 posted 08-11-2013 07:51 PM

i’d never go back in my shop again if i seen that!!!!!

-- Marty.Athens,AL

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Don Broussard

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#2 posted 08-11-2013 08:08 PM

I did a little Internet research, looking at pictures of both the rat snake and cottonmouth aka water moccasin. They actually look pretty similar so I’m still unsure. They are both native to south Louisiana.

Think I’ll give Billy the Exterminator a call.

-- People say I hammer like lightning. It's not that I'm fast -- it's that I never hit the same place twice!

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Greg..the Cajun Wood Artist

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#3 posted 08-11-2013 08:17 PM

choot’em’

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#4 posted 08-11-2013 08:17 PM

I have a shop snake. I see his shed skin. He keeps the mice gone. I got a couple in the house. (mice, not snakes) Put out traps. I caught a cat and one small dog. Got poison instead.

-- Gary, DeKalb Texas only 4 miles from the mill

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#5 posted 08-11-2013 08:22 PM

I’m not sure why but I know how to fly when I see a snake. We just couldn’t cohabitate in my shop.

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firefighterontheside

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#6 posted 08-11-2013 08:28 PM

http://ufwildlife.ifas.ufl.edu/water_moccasin_watersnake_comparison.shtml

Seems like you really need to see its head and tail to identify.

-- Bill M. I love my job as a firefighter, but nothing gives me the satisfaction of running my hand over a project that I have built and just finished sanding.

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#7 posted 08-11-2013 08:36 PM

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Don Broussard

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#8 posted 08-11-2013 08:37 PM

Thanks for the comments. I guess I’m glad to know I’m not the only snake wuss.

UPDATE: Good news and bad news.

I went out to the shop to see if I could get a good picture of the snake’s head, and maybe to do some harm to it while I was there. The good news is that he wasn’t where he was. The bad news is that he wasn’t where he was. He’s on the move!

New shop rule No. 1: No more working bare footed.

New shop rule No. 2: Look before you move stuff around the shop.

New shop rule No. 3: Learn to identify the difference between rat poop and snake poop. I’ve been seeing droppings but I assumed they were all rodent droppings. I think I’ve been wrong at least half of the time.

I don’t really have a plan now . . .

-- People say I hammer like lightning. It's not that I'm fast -- it's that I never hit the same place twice!

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redSLED

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#9 posted 08-11-2013 08:39 PM

Couldn’t you just pick it up the snake with a long dowel and move him/her out in a garbage can w/ lid? Box him in a corner first of course. It’ll make for some exciting workshop drama – and better than the spousal kind.

-- Perfection is the difference between too much and not enough.

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Don Broussard

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#10 posted 08-11-2013 08:47 PM

@DonW—That was an unusual reaction from me. Snakes don’t usually bother me, but I guess the fact that I was exposed threw me for a loop.

@firefighter—I did get a look at the tail, and there was no rattle. I think we can rule out diamondback rattler. Sorry I didn’t get a pic of the tail to show.

@redSLED—Now I gotta find him first, then corner him and put him away for safekeeping! I expect that we’ll be looking for each other for the next few days or so.

-- People say I hammer like lightning. It's not that I'm fast -- it's that I never hit the same place twice!

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firefighterontheside

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#11 posted 08-11-2013 09:00 PM

The tail on the moccasin is supposed to be short and thick where the tail on the water snake is supposed to be long and skinny. I went into my chicken coop to look for eggs a while back. What I found was the biggest black rat snake I’ve ever seen. I knew it was harmless but I was so surprised you’d have thought it was an anaconda. I don’t like to kill snakes but I couldn’t have it eating my eggs. I shot it and as I carried it away there was egg draining out its mouth.

-- Bill M. I love my job as a firefighter, but nothing gives me the satisfaction of running my hand over a project that I have built and just finished sanding.

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Makarov

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#12 posted 08-11-2013 09:11 PM

What you saw probably was rat droppings. That is why the snake was there. It wanted a meal.

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Don Broussard

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#13 posted 08-11-2013 09:13 PM

@Makarov—You’re probably right. I’m working on a schedule now so that his hunting and meal time don’t conflict with my shop time.

-- People say I hammer like lightning. It's not that I'm fast -- it's that I never hit the same place twice!

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#14 posted 08-11-2013 09:17 PM

Bill, it might have been a chicken snake. They eat eggs. They will crawl under a hen. If you have a feed store near, they may sell solid eggs. Snake swallows it and cant crush it. Snake is eliminated. I just kill them. Hard to keep them out once they get started.

-- Gary, DeKalb Texas only 4 miles from the mill

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JoeinGa

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#15 posted 08-11-2013 09:17 PM

Time to call The TURTLEMAN!

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