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debianlinux

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08-08-2013 08:59 PM

Topic tags/keywords: insane membrane price check jointer planer

Here is the ad.

As I understand it the asking price of $250 for the Makita 2012NB is pretty much spot on while the asking price of $450 for the Jet JJ-6CSX is way off the mark.

I don’t want to insult the guy but I am prepared to offer $500 for the both of them which is almost half of what he seems to want for the jointer.

So a couple of questions:
A) Are my numbers reasonable to bring to the table? I don’t think I am willing to pay much if any more than $500 for both tools and I don’t really want one without the other.
B) Am I doing myself solid for buying these tools at $500 or might I be doing better to spend the same or less money elsewhere?

I am just getting started in this hobby and just have started to recognize the utility of a jointer and a planer. It may be that I would be better served to wait until I have a pressing need for such tools. I’ve already struggled with wood warping in storage and a few plans I’m looking at attempting to build are going to require some specifically dimensioned and perfectly butted pieces of lumber. Is it appropriate to even be considering this degree of purchase at this stage of my journey? I should note that I do have a very basic table saw and that space is at a very high premium in my shop. In fact, the vast majority of work I do involves lugging tools and materials upstairs and out onto my carport. Dust collection will definitely be an issue as I don’t foresee my lugging the jointer up and downstairs as it specs at ~140lbs.


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PurpLev

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#1 posted 08-08-2013 09:15 PM

your offer sounds reasonable for both, if he doesn’t agree, move on to something better down the line… while the makita may be a nice planer, I ahven’t seen many of those and my concern would be in terms of replacement parts and availability/support/service (I have not done homework on this, so it may be that it is very available and serviceable).

of course you can always purchase just 1, and find the other later on from someone else. no reason to pass on a good deal today just because it doesn’t come as a “combo” so to speak.

-- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

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toolie

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#2 posted 08-08-2013 10:33 PM

there isn’t a really good deal on anything in that ad, IMHO. $450 for a 6” jointer?!

i you’re just getting started in WWing, start learning where the values are in pre-owned equipment. some brands were formerly pre-eminent but today, trade primarily on their brand name’s past glory. don’t get sucked in by brand names. focus on features and condition.

-- there's a solution to every problem.......you just have to be willing to find it.

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debianlinux

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#3 posted 08-08-2013 10:43 PM

Is that a suggestion that the two pieces of equipment are not worth pursuing at any price?

The pictures suggest top condition but I would appreciate pointers on what to look at and check when I visit.

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Dusty56

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#4 posted 08-08-2013 10:58 PM

Looks like he has wired the jointer for 220 volts. Are you comfortable rewiring it for 110 volts if you don’t have 220 in your shop ?

-- I'm absolutely positive that I couldn't be more uncertain!

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#5 posted 08-08-2013 11:17 PM

That Makita is also only a 12” planer. Don’t know if that matters to you , but I’ld hold out and look for a wider one. The Dewalt 734 and 735 come up pretty regularly in my area for about the same money.

-- Tom Finnigan - Measures? We don't need no stinking measures! - Hmm, maybe thats why my project pieces don't fit.

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debianlinux

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#6 posted 08-09-2013 12:31 AM

I’d be comfortable either rewiring the motor or dropping a wire in the “shop”. There is an old dryer outlet in my “shop” already with wiring in the conduit. I checked it and it is not hot so it may just need a breaker added to the panel. If that’s the case I’d leave it 220 and go that route.

I am assuming that the width of the planer will matter one day. For today I don’t really know what matters.

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debianlinux

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#7 posted 08-09-2013 01:53 PM

I’m also looking at an unopened DeWalt 734 with a set of replacement knives. Seller wants $375 but I am thinking of offering $300. It’s about 100 mile round trip to pick that one up so I am a bit uncertain just how unopened it actually is. Also, it is only a 12.5” width which people seem to be steering me away from.

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debianlinux

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#8 posted 08-09-2013 07:04 PM

Went by this guy’s place today and looked over everything in the shop. The guy doing the selling is not the owner because the owner is recently deceased. His prices are from some quotes he got from a LWWS and he is quite negotiable on them.

It was a lot to take in because there were quite a lot of smaller tools I might be interested in as well. I told him I was going to mull it over this weekend and get back to him next week.

I tentatively negotiated those 2 tools to $550 but I’m fairly certain I could press it to $500 or get another hand tool or 2 thrown in for the $550.

The original owner bought good quality tools across the board and kept them all in tip top shape with multiple replacement parts for everything. For example, the jointer has a set of replacement knives and push pads. I feel certain that whatever I picked up in that shop was in the best possible condition for a used tool.

I am very much on the fence because I have been led to believe I can do better for the same money and also my space constraints and my general lack of experience shy me from making any major equipment purchases at all.

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Rex B

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#9 posted 08-09-2013 07:16 PM

I think $500 or $550 for both is not a bad deal. Sure, if you hold out you might be able to find something a bit cheaper, or you may never see a good deal again. That’s how used equipment goes. If you have the budget I say go for it.

Also, I don’t think a 13” lunchbox planer is that much more useful than a 12”, so I wouldn’t let that hurt your decision.

-- Rex

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toolie

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#10 posted 08-09-2013 10:57 PM

I tentatively negotiated those 2 tools to $550 but I’m fairly certain I could press it to $500 or get another hand tool or 2 thrown in for the $550.

not too bad. only overpaying between $100 and $200. the jointer is worth between $200 and $250, max. the planer is worth between $100 and $150, max. don’t get bamboozled by bright, shiny paint.

-- there's a solution to every problem.......you just have to be willing to find it.

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IrreverentJack

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#11 posted 08-10-2013 12:52 AM

I am just getting started in this hobby

Offer $1000 for all of it. It might make it worth it for both of you. Good luck. -Jack

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#12 posted 08-10-2013 01:29 AM

I have no knowledge of the makita, but know that a 12 inch planer will do you well. My dewalt is 12.5 and I have never planed something 12 inches. I’ve had it 15 years. My experience with makita has been very positive and its probably a good tool. I’ve never seen a jointer that nice on CL in my area for less than 350. Maybe it sold for 275-300. I would think it is worth that. I paid 225 for my older grizzly. So then figure you’re paying 200-225 for the planer. That could be a little high but not much. Also I’ll add that if you’re new to this, maybe you don’t meed the jointer yet. You can do a lot with the table saw and the planer

-- Bill M. I love my job as a firefighter, but nothing gives me the satisfaction of running my hand over a project that I have built and just finished sanding.

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runswithscissors

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#13 posted 08-10-2013 06:14 AM

Doesn’t matter how wide a planer you have, eventually you’ll need a wider one.

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pintodeluxe

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#14 posted 08-10-2013 06:44 AM

Was the guy a woodworker or tool collector? That stuff looks immaculate!
I had the Jet jointer, and it was a fine tool until I needed to upgrade to an 8” model.

-- Willie, Washington "If You Choose Not To Decide, You Still Have Made a Choice" - Rush

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debianlinux

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#15 posted 08-15-2013 03:35 PM

http://winstonsalem.craigslist.org/tls/4002131248.html

This guy is willing to take $300 for what appears to be a DeWalt 735. I’m thinking this is a fair price but apparently my thinking on these things is fairly wrongheaded so I’d like a second opinion or five.

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