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08-08-2013 12:01 AM

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So my baby is starting school this fall. I just came home from a meeting at my daughters new school and they are issuing all students K-12 (whose parents allow) a brand new Ipad for school/home use within the “proper use” policies. I am 31 and am a little unnerved at the idea. I understand that this is where school are heading to save money on books, but I don’t see how I should be financially responsible for damages to something of this nature. Book fees went up between $5-$10 which is not my concern. My concern is if it is lost, stolen, or a 5 year old happens. Most days it is a challenge just to keep track of her shoes. Yes they are offering insurance (that I have to pay for ($41) ). I don’t know am I overreacting??? Thanks for listening to my rant. Any and all responses are welcome, please be as harsh as you want. If I need some humble pie serve it up.


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#1 posted 08-08-2013 12:13 AM

my daughter is starting this year also,though i haven’t heard of them using an i-pad just yet.i’m sure in the next year or two they will,but i’m with you my daughters got ten pairs of shoes and can’t find a pair.i don’t think your over-reacting.imho.

-- Marty.Athens,AL

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#2 posted 08-08-2013 12:50 AM

No you are not over reacting. I have 2 sons both grown now. I do not think a child starting school or even thru elementary school is responsible enough to look after something like an ipad. Your worries are well founded. I would pay the extra book fees. just my 2 cents.

-- You have not really lived until you do something for someone who can never repay you.

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#3 posted 08-08-2013 01:02 AM

I guess I’m just old fashioned, but what’s happening to our society nowadays….? What’s happened to paper, pads, and pencils, and school books…? It’ll get to the point that these kids won’t even know how to spell or write their names, or anything else….They will be so dependent on all these ipads, cell phones, and computers, it’s just amazing…...Readin’, writin’, and rithmathic used to be the learning process for people….

-- " I started with nothing, and I've still got most of it left".......

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#4 posted 08-08-2013 01:06 AM

Scared for my one year old son too. Your fear is warrented IMO.

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#5 posted 08-08-2013 02:11 AM

Why ipads? Why not an Android tablet or a Windows tablet?
There are several tablet options, or laptops for that matter that are less than $200, some less than $100.

In todays educational environment, I understand a child needs to learn the web in addition to traditional sources of content. And, if the access device is a tablet or some other device/computer that’s okay with me, but just like there have always been accommodations made for the less well off, this is no different. No way should one child be denied equal access to what his or her peers have based on the financial condition of the family. The school should consider the capability of all students equally and gear the program to the lowest common denominator.

JMHO.

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#6 posted 08-08-2013 03:13 AM

Time for HOMESCHOOLERS to stand up!

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#7 posted 08-08-2013 03:32 AM

I am a high school teacher. Take it from me, they are a disaster…and the more parents speak up, the better.

If the iPads were kept in the classroom, there would be no big concern. Heck, my 4 year old is amazing with iPads, iPhones, and even my Android. But at our school district, the kids take them home, load them to their iTunes, and customize them with every distraction known to humankind.

From a classroom management standpoint, it’s not a big deal, since you can keep them from getting on the iPad and you can use it as motivation (they would not want their iPad rights suspended).

The problem is when you USE them in class. That gives them the ability to use them anyway they want…and their way will NOT be your way.

For the young kid, it’s definitely a responsibility thing…and yes, I’d have a difficult time with the notion of those kids carrying them around.

I’m hoping that within 5 to 10 years, there will be enough data available to show that kids are trending worse and worse educationally. Perhaps by then we can head off the idiocracy before it happens. My failure rates last year were 50% higher than I’ve previously experienced…and I believe the iPads (and phones) are 90% of the reason why.

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#8 posted 08-08-2013 12:17 PM

Why, WHy, WHY does everything have to run on a battery or electricity?

Taken from a Library Bookmark, “Books, the other channel.”

iPad weighs several ounces, BOOKS WEIGH SEVERAL POUNDS. Where’s the exercise?

How can you become responsible for expensive things when you have not learned to be responsible for lesser expensive simple things?

It’s kind of cool to watch my Boy Scouts find what they need to know about Scout requirements on their electronic thingy but they cannot find it in their $12 Boy Scout Handbook. Gotta have a GPS, CANNOT USE A MAP AND COMPASS.

What is going to happen when the system goes to smash?

Just because we can, should we? <think about that.

MIKE

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#9 posted 08-08-2013 02:04 PM

The complexity of computer use has been reduced down to the point that I don’t feel that it has any place in a curriculum that doesn’t require a computer to use. Meaning they should be banished from PreK-8th grade.

Once you start taking basic programming, its understood you need a machine to work with.

It takes all of about a week to get enough training in word or excel to do the vast majority of work that any student in high school would need to complete.

I get where they are going, there are a lot of disadvantaged students who will fall behind technically if they do not have access to the equipment, and it makes sense from a fiscal point not to continue to buy books, but I feel that doing problems from a book is and should be a requirement until humans stop inhabiting the planet. The age at which this cuts off is up for debate. I think maybe the last two years of high school or when you start college.

-- Brian

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#10 posted 08-08-2013 09:46 PM

Cosmicsniper said ”I’m hoping that within 5 to 10 years, there will be enough data available to show that kids are trending worse and worse educationally.”

Are you kidding? Just go to any McDonalds and make an order. When the kid says ”That’ll be eleven dollars and 22 cents please”... hand him (or her) a twenty.

As SOON as you see them hit the “enter” button, quickly reach into your pocket and say ”Here, I have the 22 cents” … and they’ll be dead in the water. Won’t HAVE A CLUE how to give you the proper change.

It’s here NOW, I tell ya. You dont need to wait 5 or 10 years to see it.

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JoeinGa

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#11 posted 08-08-2013 09:47 PM

Oh… and dont get me started why some people think their child NEEDS a cell phone at 6 or 7 years old! GRRRRRRRRRR

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Shawn Masterson

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#12 posted 08-08-2013 10:07 PM

Now the phone is a whole nother can. and not just a phone it has to be top of the line.

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#13 posted 08-09-2013 12:15 AM

I’m a teacher. I have mixed feelings and I ran an ill thought out 1-1 laptop program at a middle school for a year. When it comes to responsibility the kids tend to do better than the parents. This is the way education is going so we all might as well get used to it. Get the insurance but voice your concerns in a letter to the superintendent. In fact get as many like minded parents as you can to do that. By your post I assume they did not do a good job of introducing the program or getting parental input before taking the dive. These two things are absolutely key to effective and smooth implementation.

As for “why Ipad?” Simple, Apple is proven technology with everything sourced from one place and already integrated. The lap top program looked into every computer company they could before looking at apple. PC based lap top programs were almost unmanageable due to third party software bugs and student introduced viruses. Apple had what we needed in one package, and was really freaking well thought out. We did not have to go find third party software for everything we did and viruses were absolutely minimal. It was one of the few smart decisions that was made that year.

Obviously this is going to happen, whether you want it to or not, so learn with your daughter. Embrace what it can do. Education is changing fast, but not nearly as fast as the world our kids will be living in. The Ipad your daughter uses this year will be considered dinosaur era junk in the not so distant future.

And to those “paper and pencils were good enough for me” folks. I sure am happy I got to use a calculator in high school and did not have to waste my time with a slide rule. And thank god computers were becoming main stream in college before I had to type my first term paper as a freshman. Having to use a type writer would have forced me to drop out. Thank god for the internet because I would be no where as a wood worker without this site.

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#14 posted 08-11-2013 07:34 PM

Where has the child in “childhood” been kidnapped to? Who was the snake-oil salesman that sold parents the notion that children need to be geniuses by age 5? Who said that a 6 year old needed to have a cell phone or a tablet? Why must childhood be, essentially, over before it has a chance to begin? Life is so stressful now for kids and parents, why is it necessary to add to it? Will kids really be miserable failures if they don’t know how to turn on a PC until high-school?

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#15 posted 08-14-2013 06:06 PM

If the technology is key to us becoming smarter – then the USA should not have dropped to 23 in Science and Technology, and the USA is very high up in terms of having a wireless society where everything is plugged in, with kids using I-phones texting etc.

Yet the “Low Tech” countries are beating us.

The problem is compounded in that there are a lot of teachers that are less tech savvy to take advantage of the opportunities.
OUr schools are adopting Prometheus Boards but a 1 week summer course doesn’t cut it – so the thing is turned on for basic powerpoint – - while the rest of the time it is a teacher at the whiteboard, while the gadgets collect dust.

-- "If we did all the things we are capable of doing, we would literally astonish ourselves." Edison

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