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Forum topic by Joseph Jossem posted 08-06-2013 05:01 AM 1258 views 0 times favorited 33 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Joseph Jossem

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08-06-2013 05:01 AM

Aloha

So a person told me the other day I am destroying trees.I told them I salvage trees other wise head to the waste facility.They still said I am destroying trees?

As far as I can see using something that would headed to waste is correct in my eyes?I also pointed out to them driving a bmw living in a mansion and pretending to be green isnt what its about.Is it my point of view thats off I figure sustainability is best utilize whats right.Todays media has miss guided the term sustainability.


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#1 posted 08-06-2013 05:04 AM

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#2 posted 08-06-2013 05:45 AM

Aloha Joe,
Every time I drive home with a load of wood here on the Big Island I get looks from people like I have just rapped mother earth but I just smile and throw them a shaka because I get all of my wood as salvage. I know and you know what we are doing is the right thing and that is making use of something that was going to waste. Don’t let some out of touch trust-a-farian ruin a good haul of wood.

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#3 posted 08-06-2013 05:52 AM

Mark I have heard on big isle lately you cant go anywhere with timber your right.If its not the tree huggers its the has been local loggers trying to hold onto to past dreams or the out of state companies.Seems like everybodys in everybodies business cut throat.Mahalo

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#4 posted 08-06-2013 05:57 AM

Those tree huggers are a big peeve of mine.
If they won’t accept the answer that we’re using wood that would otherwise be thrown awayor burned, or from naturally harvested trees, then a simple “deal with it” is my response.

You can’t change one sided thinking, so I don’t bother to try.

-- He who dies with the most tools... dies with the emptiest wallet.

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#5 posted 08-06-2013 10:01 AM

Tree hugger seem to have a self-righteous attitude that everyone else is wrong. How much wood is in their homes- furniture, framing, etc.? Don’t they know that paper is made from wood?

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mtenterprises

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#6 posted 08-06-2013 10:56 AM

If they owned wooded property, as I do, they would see things differently. After a big storm often you find big trees blown down taking with them several younger smaller ones. This is no fault of my own but what happens in nature. Now should that tree be allowed to rot there or should it be utilized? Should that tree have been harvested previously to keep it from destroying or damaging other trees? These people cannot see the big picture as to where we stand on this earth.
Do not get angry with the next statement.
The Bible says that we, man , is to have dominion over all things of the earth. Which basically means everything thing here is for our use and, yes, we should use it properly. They think trees are as perennial as the grass. But then, think of that one shaft of wheat should it live or be cut down to make bread to sustain mans’ life. Maybe, in their eyes, we should all die decreasing the surplus population of man and just leave the earth to the vegetation, insects and animals. They need to see things in a proper perspective, the big and small of these issues. Raping the earth is one thing but proper stewardship is another. So do I let it rot or make something useful from it. They need to be educated that as small woodshop owners we use and recycle as much wood as we possibly can, not like the manufacturer who creates waste, which many of us use. The small woodshop owner down through the ages has always made the best use of the natural resources given him taking only what he needed and using it all. The majority of tree huggers and animal rights people, for the most part, are truly ignorant they just parrot and twist certain phrases and thoughts of what some few who are more educated have tried to say.
Those people who look down their noses at you driving by with your load of wood are actually the first in line at the craft shows to buy what you made from that load of wood you brought home

Ok, I’ll get off my soap box and stop preaching to the choir.

MIKE

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#7 posted 08-06-2013 01:13 PM

You can always tell them if they are that worried about saving trees they should switch to plastic toilet paper

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#8 posted 08-06-2013 05:39 PM

Tell them and all their buddies to exhale lots more CO2 because that helps plants including trees grow faster.

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#9 posted 08-06-2013 07:56 PM

Or just tell ‘em to go pound sand… !

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#10 posted 08-06-2013 08:05 PM

There are more trees now in North America than there was before we started cutting them down. That’s a fact Jack! When I tell them that is usually shuts them right up.

Here is also a question that they can never answer, “How is using a renewable resource considered killing the environment?”

I am unusual as I have a degree in Forestry and Environmental Science(tree hugging)!

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#11 posted 08-06-2013 08:44 PM

They are morons.. I am totally a tree hugger, hippy lover, granola eating, north American Druid.. Destroying trees… what a joke. Who destroys trees are large construction companies that build over sized Mc Mansions… large furniture producers like IKea who make crap and leave tons of wasted materials… and fast food restaurants who pay south america to wipe out rain forest… THOSE people destroy trees.

At most my studio could consume one tree a year.. and I collect fallen trees and trees other people have cut down. I collect fire wood and old porches… I am a dumpster diver and re-user.. And I am a dedicated tree hugger, who knows my species, and is responsible… which is also means I am frugal. and in the end every tree gets new life.

I agree.. you know you are responsible.. they are just being provocative and desperate to poke at anyone they can for their lack of feeling control in the world…. sad.. just sad. We are the good guys in this.

-- " 'Truth' is like a beautiful flower, unique to each plant and to the season it blossoms ... 'Fact' is the root and leaf, allowing the plant grow and bloom again."

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404 - Not Found

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#12 posted 08-06-2013 08:54 PM

That person is an idiot.

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Buckethead

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#13 posted 08-06-2013 08:55 PM

Right on EP.

I’d argue that woodworkers are among the most ardent advocates for healthy trees and forests. There are exceptions to the rule, just as there are exceptions in the trust trustafarian realm.

We can’t always tell the difference, but we can always live and let live. :-)

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teejk

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#14 posted 08-06-2013 08:59 PM

Any professional tree guy will tell you that most trees will “hit the curve” and unless culled will die unused. In the meantime the canopy they have will prevent any new growth. Forests need to be managed.

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#15 posted 08-06-2013 09:06 PM

Tell the tree hugger that he should go replant the driftwood (trees) on the beach instead of having any fires, if he feels that capturing “trash” out of the waste stream and turning it into furniture is raping the environment.

EDIT…
Best to wave him off – as the tree huggers that are that “In your face” are mentally unstable and if confronted would likely set fire to your shop in retaliation.

-- "If we did all the things we are capable of doing, we would literally astonish ourselves." Edison

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