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Boodles

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391 days ago

Hey Everyone!

I’m brand new to both woodworking, and to this forum! I’m currently in process of researching and purchasing used tools, and I came across two table saws on craigslist.

I am curious to know if either the Rigid TS 2424-1 ($125) or the Craftsman 113.241691 ($50) table saws are any good today…

Here is the link to the Rigid:
http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/bfs/3974296784.html

Craftsman:
http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/tls/3975281437.html

Hope to hear some solid news!

Thanks;

Josh


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knotscott

5429 posts in 2010 days


#1 posted 391 days ago

Hi Josh. You’re on the right track! The saws were both made in the USA by Emerson, and are very similar, the Ridgid has a much better fence, has both wings, the Herculift mobile base, and looks to be in a little better condition. $125 is an excellent deal IMO….I’d contact the seller asap and schedule a chance to see it and hear it run. With good alignment and good blade choice, this can be an excellent saw.

The Cman would need a fence upgrade, but has the same potential as the Ridgid….it’s well worth the $50 asking price in parts alone. The slight rust patina will clean up pretty nicely on either. I doubt either will be on the market long.

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NiteWalker

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#2 posted 391 days ago

What scott said, bag that ridgid. :-)

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kizerpea

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#3 posted 391 days ago

Bought my TS-2424 new ..good saw

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toolie

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#4 posted 391 days ago

tough to fault that 2424. 10” CI TS with a 1.5 hp dual voltage motor, herc-u-lift, “PALS”- like blade alignment feature, webbed CI wings and a very good single piece front rail 24” rip fence. also, FWIW, those gray colored ridgid stationary power tools carry a lifetime guaranty for manufacturing defects that is tool, not owner, specific. what that’s worth on a saw that’s at least 10 years old, i’ll leave to you. but that’s a first rate TS that could very well be all the TS a hobbyist would ever need.

BTW, should 24” of rip capacity be insufficient, those fence rails can be slid to the right approx. 12” more for 36” of capacity. this operation negates the usefullness of the front rail tape measure, but, IMHO, that’s a small price to pay for the added capacity.

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knotscott

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#5 posted 391 days ago

“BTW, should 24” of rip capacity be insufficient, those fence rails can be slid to the right approx. 12” more for 36” of capacity.”

Yeah…pretty much what a TS3612 is. Maybe the OP is out buying that saw now!

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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bbc557ci

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#6 posted 391 days ago

The Craftsman has the “flex drive”. Don’t know if that’s a good thing or not.

Rigid looks like a real good deal.

-- Bill, central NY...no where near the "big apple"

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Boodles

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#7 posted 391 days ago

Wow, I’m quite overwhelmed with all the enthusiasm and help; thank you guys!!

So as soon as I posted this, I discovered that the Rigid sold, but I found another Craftsman 113.24 TS which was in MUCH better condition (well, it seemed to be…)

I ended up picking this “better one” up for $100.. it included everything except the reset button, but the man who sold it to me ripped a nice 1.5” piece of redwood, and the machine just buzzed away (it sounded smooth and quite quiet, actually.)

I brought it home and worked with the top a bit… put about an hour and a half into it using 0000 steel wool directly on the cast iron, to using a bit of comet cleaner, to a some diluted dawn soap (it’s all the we had at home here.) Let me me know if I can go even further with it. Once I get the “green light” from you guys, I will apply some miniwax paste wax to the top (picked that up from another post.)

Thanks again!!


(This picture shows a “bright silver spot” in comparison to the rest of the top.. should I strive to make it all look like that, or is what I have so far sufficient?)

Thanks guys!

Josh

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MrFid

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#8 posted 391 days ago

I’d say it looks great! If the top is to your liking, go with it. I’d go with the paste wax now. First on your list should be a cross-cut sled. Here’s a good link:

http://www.thewoodwhisperer.com/videos/the-cross-cut-sled/

Be sure to friend Marc on here as well. He’s the man and he has a lot of great videos, including the one above. Good luck with your saw, and welcome to LJs!

Also, keep reading and watching as much as you can. Consuming content will make your work better faster. This site is a great resource as well.

-- Bailey F - Eastern Mass.

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knotscott

5429 posts in 2010 days


#9 posted 391 days ago

Bummer about the Ridgid….that would have been a sweet deal, The Cman you got looks to be a direct drive with a universal motor. It will still work, and isnt’ a bad buy at $100, but it’s different from the Ridgid, and other belt drive Cman saws. bbc57ci correctly noted that the other Cman originally posted was a flex drive, which I had not noted earlier….it’s also different from the Ridgid, and is less desirable than belt drive, though it does have an induction motor.

Get your new saw aligned, and get a decent $30 Freud Diablo, DW Precision Trim, CMT ITK Plus, or Irwin Marples blade for it. Usually 40T to 50T is suitable for general purpose work….fewer teeth for heavy ripping, more teeth for fine crosscuts and plywood.

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Boodles

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#10 posted 391 days ago

Would it have been better to go with the flex drive? I had assumed (you know what they say about that) that the direct drive was “better” and possibly newer than the flex drive.. did I make a mistake?

Also, does anyone have any tips or recommendations regarding how to apply the paste wax, or is it simply wipe on, wait 15, and wipe off?

Thanks!

J

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knotscott

5429 posts in 2010 days


#11 posted 391 days ago

There are pros and cons to each. The induction motor of the Flex Drive is generally preferred to a universal motor, but the flex drives are less desirable than belt drives IMHO….some are prone to breaking, which isn’t good. Like a lot things, it’s really a matter of opinion. The saw you’ve got is running well….plus, it’s what you’ve got now. Align, put a blade on it, and make some dust….no worries. Try it for a while and see how you’re progressing. If a great deal on a full size belt drive cast iron saw with an induction motor and a good fence comes along, consider grabbing it, and reselling your current saw.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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firefighterontheside

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#12 posted 391 days ago

I put the wax on, wait a few minutes and buff off. Its not like its your car. It just needs to make the surface more slick and helps prevent future rust. I reapply a few times per year. I think you did fine. Like knotscott said, use it for a while and see how it does. Likely it will serve you well for a while and then once you gain more knowledge and experience you will want upgrade to so something that is more commensurate with your higher skill level. I had a direct drive for many years and did fine. Actually the thing that turned me off of it was the fence and not the motor.

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toolie

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#13 posted 391 days ago

+1 on bummer about the 2424. that was a gloatable deal and would have rated a “you suck”. the c-man is a related saw, also built by emerson electric (who also built the ridgid 2412, 2424 and 3612), just built to a different price point.

how about a pic of the back of the saw also?

-- there's a solution to every problem.......you just have to be willing to find it.

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Boodles

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#14 posted 391 days ago

Thanks for the support and responses, everyone!!

I just got home from work and put the paste wax on (going to buff it off in a few minutes)...

Toolie, here are the pictures of the back and inside (well, sort of) of the machine.

Anything else I should know? It came with two blades..

J

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toolie

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#15 posted 390 days ago

thanks. it’s a direct drive. a fence upgrade is in order, and an upgraded fence (like a delta t2 or a vega 40)can, in all probability, be applied to any successor saw, should the user be so inclined.

-- there's a solution to every problem.......you just have to be willing to find it.

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