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08-02-2013 04:26 PM

I get email from tool companies. Today I got one from Rockler claiming huge discounts. So I take a look.

They have a 22 piece fostner bit set for 69.99$ claiming it’s 50% off.

I quickly went to Amazon.com and found the same fostner bit set. http://www.amazon.com/Insty-Bit-22-Piece-Forstner-Bit-Set/dp/B001DSZUYE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1375460287&sr=8-1&keywords=22-Piece+Forstner+Bit+Set

They (Amazon) claim it’s 56% off.

I’ve never seen this set at 120.00$ anywhere and a quick google proves no one sells it that high.

We should all keep in mind that when any company tries to blatantly lie to you like this, you should let them know you don’t appreciate it. Most of the stuff Rockler has in their flyer is not discounted at all, the fake tool is marked up 100% so they can claim it’s half off.

I don’t do business this way and it bothers me to do business with others who do, not so much the huge conglomerates because they are usually reprehensible anyway and beyond salvation, but for a smaller company to take this road is tragic.

Reply to your email from Rockler telling them how you feel.

Or am I just in one of those moods today.

Vent em if you got em.

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#1 posted 08-02-2013 04:34 PM

I never pay attention to how much of a discount is supposedly being given. Seriously, I’m either willing to pay for it what they are asking or i am not. People who pay attention to the advertised discount rate are people who like to claim they are saving money when in all actuality they are spending it. I like to be clear about the fact that i am spending money and the only quantity that matters is how much is being spent not some imaginary amount “saved”.

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#2 posted 08-02-2013 04:44 PM

welcome to marketing 101 – sometimes just letting people think/feel they are paying less will make them pay more.

I don’t pay attention either to marked up discounted numebers – I always check the bottom line (that includes adding and comparing shipping/taxes where applicable).

-- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

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#3 posted 08-02-2013 04:45 PM

+1. Kohls is one of the worst offenders. Last year, my wife and I were shopping for new dishes and found the exact same set at Dillards and Kohls. Dillards had them stickered at $59.99, while Kohl’s had them marked at $119.99 and “on sale” at 50% off. Same net price, but we bought at Dillards because of Kohl’s deceptive practices.

Some states actually have laws that you must have the product available for a certain length of time at the “regular” price before advertising it as a discount.

-- "My concern is not whether God is on our side; my greatest concern is to be on God's side, for God is always right." Abraham Lincoln

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#4 posted 08-02-2013 04:48 PM

I feel your pain, but this gimmick has been around since the dawn of retailing. Pretty much everybody does it. There is a “list” price or a “regular” price that no one ever pays, and then there is the “sale” price.

If you really think about it, it’s all over. Cars have a sticker price that nobody pays. At the very least, most item have a manufacturers suggested retail price (MSRP) that retailers discount from. Even a college education has a sticker price that no one pays because it is discounted through scholarships low-interest loans, and other financial aid.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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#5 posted 08-02-2013 04:49 PM

I googled more and there was an ad for the same bits from last year that claimed the original price was $140, now on sale for $69.99.

That cr@p bugs me too. I do google around for the price whenever I’m ready to buy something, regardless of what they claim the regular price is. Usually I find that everyone has it on sale for near the same price, so no real savings if I buy it from them today, but yes at least it was at that higher price at one time so it doesn’t seem like they’re trying to pull one over on me.

But when they play the number games like those dumba$$e$ on the informercials claiming it’s a $200 set but for me, today, just because they like me – $20 (and the second set is free if I pay seperate s/h) – well that just turns me off. Rockler has a decent selection, but they’re always a bit on the high-end for prices anyway and my store of last resort for when I think I have to buy it NOW and nobody else seems to have it in stock.

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#6 posted 08-02-2013 04:53 PM

FWIW – I have gotten NOTHING but GREAT customer service/support from Rockler throughout the years -online and local, more so than their competitors.

-- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

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#7 posted 08-02-2013 04:59 PM

Respectable businesses like Lee Valley never treats their customers like that .if an item goes on sale it really is .
The type of ads Russell is talking about bugs me too.

-- Ken from Ontario

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#8 posted 08-02-2013 05:09 PM

I charge $120 dollars to subscribe to my posts….... but this week they are free!!! You all just saved $120!!!!!

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#9 posted 08-02-2013 05:13 PM

But seriously.. I agree with many, and have pretty much stopped paying attention to Rockler.

JayT A begruged +10 for the Kohl’s comment. It takes all of my husbandly constraint every time my wife walks in the door with a kohl’s bag…. first thing out of her mouth is how much she saved.. Very hard to ask..”well how much did you spend… and er…. how much did you budget.”

-- Who is John Galt?

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#10 posted 08-02-2013 05:38 PM

Bugs me too.

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#11 posted 08-02-2013 06:04 PM

@ Joey: I do believe that’s 100% off, if my math is correct! :-)

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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#12 posted 08-02-2013 06:10 PM

Last month I got 2 different Harbor Freight ads in the same Sunday’s paper. Both had the same miter saw with the same stock number. The first read save $99 and the other was save $179, and they each had different original prices for the same exact item.

-- in the confusion, I mighta grabbed the gold ...

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#13 posted 08-02-2013 06:10 PM

Logic for the shopping impaired:

“This didn’t cost me anything. It was marked 50% off so I bought it with the 50% I saved.”

-- "My concern is not whether God is on our side; my greatest concern is to be on God's side, for God is always right." Abraham Lincoln

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#14 posted 08-02-2013 06:19 PM

Everyone want’s to think they got a deal so as pointed out everyone does it. It only increases when you deal with companies that are selling to bargain hunters to begin with.. Rockler, Kohl’s, etc… they do it because it is what there overall customer base expects to see and would go elsewhere if they didn’t get it that way. Harbor Freight is my favorite about marking up junk and running a never ending sell on many items and the always save 20% coupon.

Just look at JCPenny’s 2011, brought in Apple retail guru to overhaul the place.. promotions limited and set low prices were utilized.. fast forward and the old guy is back and JC Penny starts price inflation so as to offer artificial discounts to win back the client base they are losing and add nearly 30 sales promotions during this year because that is what the consumer of these type places demands.

Never has bugged me as you have to take, as mentioned what is it worth to you.

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#15 posted 08-02-2013 06:40 PM

But seriously.. I agree with many, and have pretty much stopped paying attention to Rockler.

Seems they want to squeeze as much as they can from you. I once tried to buy an item, it was $30, shipping to Mexico $95…..Needless to say I have never been back to their site.

-- To surrender a dream leaves life as it is — and not as it could be.

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