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Boatman53

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358 days ago

Topic tags/keywords: bandsaw band saw building a band saw repair

Last summer I bought a NOS Grizzly 18” band saw. I set it up for resawing only, I used it occasionally total run time say eight hours. Got it out to rip laminates this morning, turned it on and the blade ran forward on the wheels and into the wheel covers. Crap! Take the blade off, put a new one on and start to tension the blade and adjust the tracking. I got it about half tensioned up and all of a sudden it wanted to throw the blade again. Then I understood what was going on. I broke the upper assembly. Earlier blade tracking problems were because it was bending.

While I decide whether to have a machinist make a new part out of steel I am also considering parting out the saw. Virtually new 18” wheels and bearings, 2HP 220 volt motor etc, etc. Any body have other suggestions? If you might be interested in parts send me a PM it might tip the scale which way I go.
Jim

-- Jim, Long Island, NY Ancorayachtservice.com home of the chain leg vise


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DrDirt

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#1 posted 358 days ago

Get the steel piece fabricated. Assuming you still WANT to have an 18”resaw bandsaw.

As parts you would take a major hit. If you don’t want to keep it at all, get the part from Grizzly and sell it as a working unit. the difference in selling price will (likely) more than cover the part cost.

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shampeon

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#2 posted 358 days ago

Have you contacted Grizzly to see if they stock a replacement bracket? My understanding is that Grizzly does carry parts.

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lysdexic

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#3 posted 358 days ago

That sux Jim.

Would it be cheaper to have the part made as opposed to purchasing a new saw?

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Boatman53

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#4 posted 358 days ago

I did contact Grizzly when I bought the saw and like “mission impossible” they disavowed any knowledge of it. When I search the model number I get a company called Busy Bee from Canada. I certainly would not want to buy a replacement part if it is like this one. I would just be selling a piece of garbage to someone else. I maybe ran the saw four or five times and had tracking issues every time. At the moment I don’t have much money tied up in it, so wouldn’t mind parting it out. A Laguna might be in my future but I hear their customer service leaves a lot to be desired.
Jim

-- Jim, Long Island, NY Ancorayachtservice.com home of the chain leg vise

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JustJoe

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#5 posted 358 days ago

I had an old Delta that did the same thing, and when I bought their replacement it was from the same pot metal. If you have an amateur machinist nearby, it doesn’t look like it would be that hard to make – a triangular piece bored with a hole and a threaded post inserted at 90. If yours is like mine, that threaded post where the wheel sits can probably even be reused once the casting is cleaned off of it.
EDIT: And if there’s any space behind it, you may be able to just pull it off, JBWeld the two pieces together, and then have someone weld a 1/8” steel plate, same shape of course, to the back of it.

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Boatman53

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#6 posted 358 days ago

Hi Scott, yes it would be cheaper, but not as much fun. Plus this saw is from 1987 and had never been run till I wired the motor last summer all the other parts seem robust enough. The other issue tipping the scale for me is they didn’t consider dust collection back in those days., and this thing can produce a lot of dust.
Jim

-- Jim, Long Island, NY Ancorayachtservice.com home of the chain leg vise

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Boatman53

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#7 posted 358 days ago

Thanks for the input JJ no repairs for me on this part. Too important in my mind. I just don’t know what their engineers were thinking, this saw came with a 3/4” resaw blade, that takes a lot of force and to have a pot metal bracket to hang it on, give me a brake. O wait they did.
Jim

-- Jim, Long Island, NY Ancorayachtservice.com home of the chain leg vise

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helluvawreck

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#8 posted 358 days ago

That is a bad day. I’m sorry for your head aches. Sometimes it makes you wonder why they named the company grizzly don’t it. The last time I heard grizzly bears are pretty tough.

helluvawreck aka Charles
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distrbd

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#9 posted 358 days ago

As just joe and a few others mentioned , fabricating that part is not too difficult,of course you still would need to drill a pin hole on the side of the triangle piece to hold the shaft in place,and a hole for the shaft to fit snugly(using the old one from the original part),here is a picture of what I’m talking about:

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Woodbum

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#10 posted 358 days ago

My 14” JET did the same thing. I replaced the part and it has worked flawlessly since. I would try to order an OEM part from Griz and try it first, before have a custom piece made. You can always sell it and buy something else if you are not pleased with it then. I have always had good luck with Griz Customer Service.

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crank49

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#11 posted 358 days ago

Boatman said,” give me a brake. O wait they did.”
No they didn’t, they gave you a BREAK.

How much you wanting to get out of that motor, wheels, and guides, etc,

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JoeinGa

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#12 posted 357 days ago

Dude… Looks like Ken from Ontario has just the piece you need! :-)

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Boatman53

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#13 posted 357 days ago

Crank49 Despite the spelling lesson you can have the whole thing for 300$ come and get it and I’ll help you load it. You can buy a new part or fabricate one and have an 18” saw for, what about 400$ ?

I’m not sure Ken was interested in selling that piece, but yes it is a pretty straightforward job and I could most likely make it myself but I rather spend my time in other ways. I need to get back to work on things that make me money so here is an opportunity for someone else. I decided this afternoon to get a new saw with decent dust collection. So parts or the whole thing this one is going bye bye.
Jim

-- Jim, Long Island, NY Ancorayachtservice.com home of the chain leg vise

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Boatman53

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#14 posted 357 days ago

For those interested this is a photo of the saw when I bought it.

Jim

-- Jim, Long Island, NY Ancorayachtservice.com home of the chain leg vise

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Boatman53

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#15 posted 336 days ago

Well for those of you that might be wondering… Since no one jumped on my offer to sell the saw I decided to fix it instead. The whole assembly came apart very easily, everything was just a snug fit. So here are the old pieces.

I had the local machinist do most of the milling, even though I have the tools it would have taken me far longer than the $50 he charged me. I did however ask him to leave the hub taller than the original so I could fine tune it on the saw. Unfortunately I didn’t have enough hands to do the work and take the pictures but this is what I did.
I assembled all the pieces back on the saw as I got them from the machinist. Installed the upper wheel, then with a straightedge against the rim of the upper wheel adjusted the tracking till the wheels were coplanar. Then I measured the distance from the rim of the lower wheel to the straightedge to find the amount that I needed to reduce the upper hub. Then over to my milling machine to take it down.

Then back to the saw, reassemble everything one more time. This is the new piece ready for the wheel.

I doubt this one will bend. I did the extra fitting ‘cause I just wasn’t sure about the old one. I never checked the wheels when I first got the saw, but now I know. I put on a new blade and tensioned it up, the tracking needed no adjustment from when I measured the wheels for coplanar. Fired up the saw and cut some wood, I’m back in business. $50 bucks and about an hour and a half with the disassembly and then the fine tuning, I’m happy. Now I just need to corral all the dust this thing can make.

-- Jim, Long Island, NY Ancorayachtservice.com home of the chain leg vise

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