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Forum topic by Klickitat posted 07-28-2013 06:06 PM 1566 views 0 times favorited 22 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Klickitat

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07-28-2013 06:06 PM

Is it a good idea to take an extra Miller Falls #5 Jack Plane and reshape the blade and turn it into a scrub plane?

Please forgive my ignorance. I have never had a scrub plane and would like to have one, but I do not want to spend the money. I actually have several #5’s and was wondering if I put a 3” radius on the blade if that would work? Is the #5 too long?

Thanks for the input.


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bondogaposis

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#1 posted 07-28-2013 06:09 PM

Yes, it is good idea, all you have to do is reshape the blade. If you want to go back just pick up a another blade and chip breaker and you can switch back and forth easily.

-- Bondo Gaposis

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#2 posted 07-28-2013 06:13 PM

You sure can. I bought a #5 from DonW and he included a scrub iron with it. Use it all the time.

-- A positive attitude will take you much further than positive thinking ever will.

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Loren

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#3 posted 07-28-2013 06:14 PM

Scrub planes are often short, narrow and light. A jack plane
will work but you’ll get more tired using it than a plane
designed for the task.

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Klickitat

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#4 posted 07-28-2013 06:28 PM

Loren, what do you suggest then; a #4 to start with?

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#5 posted 07-28-2013 06:31 PM

Not especially. If you don’t have a thickness planer,
you’re in for a lot of hard work anyway.

I have an old no-name iron scrub plane. While it’s
the right tool for the job, it doesn’t make working
with hand tools markedly less strenuous on the whole.

-- http://lawoodworking.com

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Klickitat

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#6 posted 07-28-2013 06:35 PM

I don’t mind the work. I have been switching over to more and more hand tools the older I get, because I like the work and I find it quite therapeutic.

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#7 posted 07-28-2013 07:03 PM

I am with Loren on this; a wide jack plane is going to tire you out if it is used as a scrub plane. I modified an old wood bodied smoother one time to see how it would work out and it kicked my butt (I am a physically fit guy too). I quickly found an Ulmia scrub plane and then upgraded to a Stanley.

I guess if you put an extreme camber on it, like the 3” you mention, you could get away with it. That would leave a lot of that blade unused though. I would also be cautious of how deep you make cuts in relation to the mouth opening. A #5 doesn’t open up even close to equaling a scrub plane which means your cuts will have to be shallower and ultimately equalling more strokes to remove the desired stock.

-- Mike

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Klickitat

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#8 posted 07-28-2013 07:14 PM

I like the input from everyone, thanks.

I am thinking based on the responses, it that I need to find a narrow plane as a donor.

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#9 posted 07-28-2013 07:16 PM

People also use transitional jack planes to scrub I believe.

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#10 posted 07-28-2013 07:26 PM

A number 3 has a pretty narrow blade, like 1&3/4 inches, If you put the mouth all the way open, and then filed it a bit wider, I think it would make an excellent scrub. I made a quick and dirty wooden scrub plane and used an old block plane iron. Before that i used my no.5 with about a 7 inch radius on it for general thicknessing.

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#11 posted 07-28-2013 08:37 PM

I have a Harbor Freight #33 that is now a scrub plane in the #3 size, PLUS a Corsair C-5 as a jack plane sized scrub plane, and use them both quite a bit. Then a few passes with a regular Stanley #5 and then a DE6c to try it flat.

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use

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Don W

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#12 posted 07-28-2013 08:47 PM

I Think you can do what you’re asking, you’re just using the terminology a bit wrong. You can put a sharp camber on a jack plane, and use it like a scrub, but its still really a jack plane. Some like to use a #5 1/4, because its narrower, but the problem is the #5 1/4 is usually as costly as a #40 (a real scrub)

My recommendation would be to camber the jack, and if you still think you need or want a scrub, either buy one, or make one.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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#13 posted 07-28-2013 08:54 PM

I wouldn’t buy a new plane if you have one sitting around. I use a Bailey No 5 as a scrub plane and it works just fine. I have another No 5 that I use as a dedicated jack plane, so I filed the mouth on my scrub plane to open it up more. Won’t be able to sell it ever again as a jack plane, but my that’ll be for my children to deal with when I die. I use a 4” camber on my scrub and it works just fine. I’d recommend that over a 3”. You use more of the blade that way too. Actually, sharpening to a less aggressive camber makes sense with a jack → scrub conversion since the mouth won’t be as open in that case. I really wouldn’t go chasing good money after a scrub plane when you already have a No 5 lying around.

-- Bailey F - Eastern Mass.

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#14 posted 07-28-2013 09:09 PM

Corsair jack planes had a wide mouth anyway, mine cost a whopping $8

seen here with my Bailey #5 jack plane.

The H-F Windsor #33 can be ground into a 3” radius on the thick single iron, ala Stumpy Nubs, and works as well as a Stanley #40. Cost is around $9-10 for the plane.

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use

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#15 posted 07-28-2013 09:50 PM

My scrub is a converted jack, and while a true scrub plane might be lighter, I don’t find working with it particularly tiring. I heavily cambered the iron (only about 1/2” protrudes) and it eats wood like the Tasmanian Devil.

Even with the weight, it’s less tiring than taking even relatively thick shavings on a non-cambered jack.

-- ian | "You can't stop what's coming. It ain't all waiting on you. That's vanity."

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