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07-27-2013 12:56 AM

I found what I think is a 4 1/2 marked Craftsman at a flea market for $20. It looks like a wide #4. It has been neglected but is salvageable.

Questions:

#1 Who made them for Craftsman? #2 Is it actually a #4 1/2? #3 Is it worth buying and cleaning up? #4 Who likes the #4 1/2 over a #4 and is it something I am going to notice?


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#1 posted 07-27-2013 01:03 AM

What’s the marking on the iron? What are the casting marks under the levercap, on the bed? The 4-1/2 is for people who like them short and fat.

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#2 posted 07-27-2013 01:05 AM

I did not look it over really well as I did not want to draw attention to it. The marking on the lever cap was Craftsman

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#3 posted 07-27-2013 01:08 AM

I think Millers Falls made some of the Cman planes, but it could made by someone else.

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#4 posted 07-27-2013 01:10 AM

So you didn’t buy it? I wished I lived somewhere where 4-1/2 planes are so common I could just pass on the cheap ones…
With no more info than “craftsman” there is no way to answer the who-made-it question.
It could be Sargent, Millers Falls or Stanley if it’s an older one. If it’s a newer one, then there is no telling who/where it was made.

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#5 posted 07-27-2013 01:14 AM

it’s definitely older and looked like a Stanley or Miller Falls. BTW: I am heading in tomorrow and picking it up if I figure it is worth it.

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#6 posted 07-27-2013 01:15 AM

Does it have plastic knob and tote? Picture? I have one that was made by Millers Falls was made between 1962 and 1982

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#7 posted 07-27-2013 01:24 AM

Wood knob and tote. I will take a picture tomorrow. I am going to look it over really carefully and pick it up if I am happy with it.

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#8 posted 07-27-2013 01:34 AM

I picked up an 8c a while back for $50 at the same flea market a while back. There is not a ton of tools in there, but once in a while there is a nice find.

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#9 posted 07-27-2013 01:58 AM

A complete 4-1/2 for $20 is gloat worthy. I like the 4-1/2 for smoothing large panels and anything where the extra mass helps, like a board with knots.

Snag it and snap some pics. Even if you decide not to keep it, you’ll have no problem turning a profit.

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#10 posted 07-28-2013 03:43 AM

I promise I will get pictures up tomorrow. My wife took the Blazer and they were sitting in the back.

OH and yes I said “they”. I actually picked up 2 planes today. The Craftsman and a #4 that all I could read is USA on it under a broken tote. I got them both for a crisp $20 bill.

More to come tomorrow.

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#11 posted 07-28-2013 12:49 PM

Not a bad deal for $20. Older craftsman were quality tools made by several manufactures.

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#12 posted 07-28-2013 06:22 PM

Here is a link to an album I just created. I hope this works as it is the first time doing this. There are two planes the one is what I believe to be a Craftsman #4 1/2 and the other a #4 only marked Made in U.S.A.

http://s1179.photobucket.com/user/klickitat1/library/Planes?sort=3&page=1

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#13 posted 07-28-2013 06:40 PM

Well… Assuming you paid $25 for the Craftsman 4.5, and the guy paid you $5 bucks to take and dispose of that other piece of plane-shaped metal for him then it wasn’t too bad of a deal. When you get down through all that gunk to bare metal – what are the markings on the cutter itself? Is there a BB or BL or DD or ?? underneath the craftsma logo or part of the model # on the cutter?

Same for the side. With the knob to the left, and the tote to the right (looking at the left side of the plane) is there anything hidden under that protective coating of dirt and rust, right in the middle towards the bottom? If there are any markings there or on the cutter we may be able to figure out who made it for Sears.

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#14 posted 07-28-2013 06:51 PM

I found a BL on the Craftsman iron.

Cleaning up is a cinch. I have a blast cabinet and a milling machine for resurfacing to exacting tolerances.

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#15 posted 07-28-2013 11:14 PM

BL would be Sargent.

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