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Forum topic by usmcdan posted 07-25-2013 07:47 AM 713 views 0 times favorited 4 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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07-25-2013 07:47 AM

So I have built an entertainment center out of white birch. I used Trans Tint dye for the first time. I let the dye dry 24hrs and then sprayed 2 coats of Zinsser can Shellac over it. Then when I went to brush on another coat of Zinsser Shellac (de-waxed) My dye started bleeding in several places.

How to I repair the bleed sections?

How do I prevent it from bleeding again?


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#1 posted 07-25-2013 02:32 PM

Anything brushed on will pull the dye. I’d strip it, apply a pigmented stain, and top with poly or lacquer. Dump the shellac; it’s unnecessary, and just complicates the process.

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#2 posted 07-25-2013 05:46 PM

Did you use alcohol as a carrier for the dye? The shellac is also alcohol based and started to dissolve the dye again

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#3 posted 07-25-2013 06:29 PM

I mixed water w/Trans Tint. I have never used dye nor shellac prior to this project. I let the salesman at the store talk me into using dye followed by shellac (wax-free) topped with poly. I was told to spray one coat of shellac over the dye to set the dye then I would be able to brush on follow up coats of shellac. Unfortunately, when I started brushing on the shellac it made the dye run.

I lightly sanding one area and re-applied some dye to where it is barely noticeable. However the larger area affected is a total mess. No more shellac for me. I do like the look of the dye.

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#4 posted 07-25-2013 11:22 PM

Next time, you’d be much safer to spray all of your coats of shellac. Each application of shellac re-dissolves the previous coats of shellac, in much the same way lacquer does. This is why your dye bled when you brushed on the following coats. Don’t give up entirely on shellac. It makes a wonderful sealer against silicone and other contaminants, to name just one application. In short, shellac can be a finisher’s best friend, but works best when it’s sprayed, especially over a dye.

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