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Forum topic by bandit571 posted 07-22-2013 03:02 AM 4790 views 0 times favorited 19 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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bandit571

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07-22-2013 03:02 AM

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Was in Lowes tonight. Looking around in the tool section, found out the Stanley planes were no longer in their spot. Seems they have been replaced by three planes with the blue paint and Kobalt on them. Two block planes, eh, weren’t that great looking. However, the third offering by Kobalt was a 9-3/4” long, very heavy casting, #4 size plane.
they call it a bench plane.

Looked up for any reviews on the planes. Usual stuff, like about the depth adjuster having some sloppiness, irons needed to be sharpened. They did note the sole was flat.

Hey, for about $30 +tax, might be a good beginners plane?

Anyone else seen these new items??

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use


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#1 posted 07-22-2013 03:12 AM

I noticed them about a week ago as well. Did the same thing you did..stop, say “thats interesting”, and moved along.

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#2 posted 07-22-2013 03:19 AM

haven’t yet, but I will next time im at lowes

-- It's made of wood. Real sturdy.--Chubbs Peterson

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#3 posted 07-22-2013 03:32 AM

There was also a red block plane sitting there, and will remain sitting there! not even worth the effort to take it off the hook to look at.

From what I could see through the packaging, the bench plane does look decent, handles are not too bad. Chipbreaker looks a might thin, iron looks like a normal stanley iron. It uses a regular lever cap. Very thick casting for the base, and in gray iron.

Neither block plane has an adjustable mouth, at least I didn’t see any. Irons will need to be worked over, though. From the reviews I could find, irons do need to be sharpened before use. Bench plane iron not as much as the blocks do.

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use

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#4 posted 07-22-2013 05:14 AM

Well, since it’s a local store you can return the tool if
it’s bad.

Some things to look out for on off-brand bench planes
is poor machining of the frog, stamped steel rather
than cast iron frog, and a lack of ability to close
the mouth for fine cuts.

-- http://lawoodworking.com

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#5 posted 07-22-2013 05:22 AM

This one has a cast iron frog, with the frog adjust bolts. Kobalt had it cranked all the way to the rear, in the package.

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use

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#6 posted 07-22-2013 04:45 PM

Seems this has provoked a nasty response over at the SMC, aka Rob Lee’s cheerleader section. MY, my, and not a one of the respondents had even LOOKED at the planes in question. I doubt if some of them would even be caught dead in a Lowes store….

might try to swing the 30 something to get the bench plane, try it out for awhile, then, take it back for my refund. At least, I am willing to go look at the planes. Except that red block plane, seen all I need to see with that POS.

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use

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#7 posted 07-22-2013 09:19 PM

Save up just a little more and invest in vintage planes. Much better quality, and you’ll learn how to work on them in the process.

-- Brian Timmons - http://www.BigTWoodworks.com

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#8 posted 07-22-2013 10:25 PM

vintage planes?
Lets see:
Millers Falls #8 t4, and a #9 t4
stanley four square junior jack plane
bailey #5
DE6c
Wards Master #3
Wards #78
Dunlap #3 with York pitch frog
Stanley Defiance #4
Sargent #306, and #307
Stanley #110
and just because i can use them
Windsor #33 scrub plane
Corsair C-5 jack with an 8” cambered iron
and a “New” Wood River #4 V3.

All are tuned up and ready to use

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use

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Bill White

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#9 posted 07-22-2013 11:07 PM

Don’t waste your time or money on the borg planes of today. They are price-point stuff for the person(s) who don’t know what a plane is supposed to do, nor is that person expected to sharpen/tune/etc.
Hope that doesn’t sound snobbish, but they are what they are.
Bill

-- bill@magraphics.us

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bandit571

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#10 posted 07-22-2013 11:25 PM

Lets see, BORG would be Home Depot? That would mean Buck Brothers planes? Total POS planes.

Menards has the newer Stanley planes, including a Bailey block plane for about $30.00…. and a #4 ugly thing.

Lowes HAD Stanleys as well, until a few weeks ago. Now they have a Bailey look alike set of planes.

Interesting…..

Also note the above list? These are what gets the work done in my little shop…

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use

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Bogeyguy

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#11 posted 07-22-2013 11:28 PM

If it’s in packaging I tend to believe that they are trying to hide something. If I can’t get my hands on it, I’ll pass it by. just mu opinion.

-- Art, Pittsburgh.

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#12 posted 08-02-2013 01:50 PM

I purchased the mentioned Kobalt “bench plane” a couple weeks ago just because I was spending Bday money at Lowes and have actually liked several products from the Kobalt brand. Have been looking for “vintage” planes but not had much luck as of yet. I am not an experienced plane user but did get some nice shavings from this plane right out of the package and better still after a bit of honing/adjusting… Not thinking it is the best deal out there by any means but looks and feels to be a lifelong worker to me…

-- Dan

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#13 posted 01-07-2014 04:21 AM

I just purchased two of these planes for my two younger boys. I have to say, I am pleasantly surprised by their performance. Right out of the package we dialed them in and created very good shavings. All of the adjustments have worked very well and the blade has stayed intact while using them. I haven’t had the time to take them apart and check the machining but for $30 per unit I can’t complain.

That said, if I ever have time, I’d like to plane different boards each using different quality planes from cheap to expensive. Then apply a finish to those boards and have people rate the quality of the boards themselves. Maybe this has already been done, if so, let me know. Thanks.

-- There are three types of people in the world, those who can count and those who can't!

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#14 posted 01-10-2014 02:40 AM

Kobalt #4 bench plane

After a few trips on some sandpaper. Sole is as flat as any plane I have. Iron did need some flattening, and a good hone. Handles were a tad loose, but that’s an easy fix. Thing is quite heavy, but easy to push along. Seems to worth at least the $30+ tax i spent on it.

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use

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#15 posted 01-11-2014 02:01 AM

Bassbully i’d love to see the results of that test if you ever end up doing it.

-- It's made of wood. Real sturdy.--Chubbs Peterson

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