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Don Broussard

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07-20-2013 10:33 PM

Topic tags/keywords: hand tool rustiquing

Picked up a few items this morning.

3 Disstons with totes (one of which has a D-8 etching—no pic posted here) and one toteless plate; 2 Irwin bits, 2 small block planes (as yet unidentified); a saw set; a Craftsman rasp with handle; spare block plane plane; Belknap Bluegrass hand grinder. Still haven’t found a hand hole saw yet :-(

A few pics:

This grouping was $16.

Hand grinder with 6” wheel. Not sure of arbor size yet, as I haven’t removed the wheel yet. I gave $35 for it. Operates very smoothly.

Close up of grinder decal. I looked a bit on the Internet to find out more about this grinder, but epic fail resulted. If anybody has a resource you could point to me, that would be great.

-- People say I hammer like lightning. It's not that I'm fast -- it's that I never hit the same place twice!


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#1 posted 07-20-2013 10:51 PM

Blue Grass was a house model for Belknap Hardware. There are some people who collect tools from Belknap (just like there are collectors for Keen Kutter, Stanley, MF, Winchester, etc. ) Price seems a bit high, but it’s in good shape. Looks like it came from the Art Deco period. Ifyou search Belknap history I’m pretty sure one of the bigger tool sellers has posted a decent amount of info on them and you might be able to find info on the grinder that way.

One of those irons might be from a Sargent plane.

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Don Broussard

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#2 posted 07-20-2013 11:24 PM

Thanks, Joe. It looks like Belknap’s company name changed to Belknap Hardware and Manufacturing around 1907, and that was the company name until 1986, so I know this grinder could be pretty old—it also could be relatively new. It does have an Art Deco look—that’s why I first picked it up.

One website I visited for Belknap’s history says “In 1978 Belknap was set upon by labor problems and bad management decisions leading eventually to bankruptcy in 1986.” That website also had information about Belknap saws, planes, braces, miter boxes and other hand tools, but nothing about the hand grinder. I’ll keep looking.

-- People say I hammer like lightning. It's not that I'm fast -- it's that I never hit the same place twice!

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longgone

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#3 posted 07-21-2013 04:49 AM

That is a nice find Don…looks like some good restoration projects ahead. I really like the hand grinder..The art Deco look is great.

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Don Broussard

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#4 posted 07-21-2013 04:10 PM

@JustJoe—I cleaned up a few of the hand tools with an overnight Evaporust bath, and that extra plane iron is indeed a Sargent. Good catch!

-- People say I hammer like lightning. It's not that I'm fast -- it's that I never hit the same place twice!

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#5 posted 07-21-2013 04:50 PM

Nice Haul

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#6 posted 07-21-2013 05:09 PM

Great score Don! I need to get me one of those grinders.

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Don Broussard

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#7 posted 07-21-2013 09:58 PM

Thanks, y’all! Next step on the grinder is to find a replacement grinding wheel. It’s 6” diameter, about an inch thick with a 5/16” arbor. Any LJs have sources of such items to pass on?

-- People say I hammer like lightning. It's not that I'm fast -- it's that I never hit the same place twice!

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#8 posted 07-21-2013 10:05 PM

If you really mean a 5/16” arbor you’ll have to reduce the diameter of nearly any modernly-mfd. 6” wheel currently made—btw: here's where I buy a lot of abrasives:

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Don Broussard

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#9 posted 07-21-2013 10:38 PM

@Doc— Thanks for that source. The white 60 grit looks like one I could use. I couldn’t really get a good picture of the arbor, but it looks like it’s either 5/16” or 3/8” arbor:

Also, I am planning to use a light machine oil, like 3-and-1 oil, in the oilers to lubricate the crank shaft and the wheel axle. Comments?

-- People say I hammer like lightning. It's not that I'm fast -- it's that I never hit the same place twice!

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Don W

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#10 posted 07-21-2013 10:56 PM

Nice additions. I always use regular motor oil, but no reason 3 in 1 wouldn’t work that I can think of,

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Don Broussard

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#11 posted 07-21-2013 11:06 PM

Regular motor oil it is, then!

-- People say I hammer like lightning. It's not that I'm fast -- it's that I never hit the same place twice!

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DocBailey

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#12 posted 07-22-2013 09:22 PM

Well, since you asked …
I have about 6 or 7 hand cranked grinders.
My favorite is a Luther Best Maide No 51 – It’s a worm drive that runs in ball bearings.
In that, and a few other heavily used ones, I use 90W gear oil.
It’s what we ran in differentials in rear wheel drive cars before the advent of the transaxle.
It’s a great compromise between machine oil (not much good in a geared grinder) and heavy axle grease.
I’ve also used synthetics, like Mobil 1 (20W-50)

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Don Broussard

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#13 posted 07-22-2013 09:57 PM

@Doc—I was looking through some youtube videos this morning, and I saw one like that (or at least similar to it). Bet it runs smooth with those ball bearings. I’m guessing you just add the oil to the little oil cap?

-- People say I hammer like lightning. It's not that I'm fast -- it's that I never hit the same place twice!

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#14 posted 07-24-2013 01:21 AM

Don that grinder is over the top. The rest is a catch to.
Cant wait to see them cleaned up.

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