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JJohnston

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397 days ago

Here are some side-by-side shots of a Stanley no. 5 and a no. 7. When the iron is set to cutting depth, the depth adjustment on the 7 seems to be backed way out. Here’s the 7 – note how there’s no adjustment screw showing beyond the knob:

Here’s the 5 for comparison. Note there’s about 3/8” of screw showing:

Here’s a side shot of the 7. Note how much forward tilt there is to the depth adjustment fork:

Here’s the 5. Not as much forward tilt:

Here are the irons and chipbreakers side by side, 5 on the left, 7 on the right. The hole for the adjustment fork is farther back on the 7, which is actually reducing the problem. If it were farther forward, where it is on the 5, it would be even worse.

These are ebay planes, so they might well have been cobbled together from parts from different models and different eras.

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#1 posted 397 days ago

I can’t tell by these pictures if all parts are correct, and note sometimes planes left the factory with parts from previous models. Stanley was noted for that.

the fact that the adjuster is at a different location could be from several factors including depth of cut, frog placement, iron sharpened angle, chip breaker adjustment, etc.

It looks like your #7 chip breaker is much closer to the end than the #5. Neither is right or wrong, just set for a different cut.

Along with the fact Stanley did change frig design and as far as I know, all chip breakers are the same.

Is it a problem other than its just different?

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#2 posted 397 days ago

I was thinking that the 7 iron looks like it has been ground more than the 5 iron so it is shorter so needing to be adjusted out more? Maybe? ??

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#3 posted 397 days ago

The cap iron “chip breaker” is way far back on the No7. That is what adjusts the blade.
That said, I have a few planes that the adjuster knob is at the end of travel with the blade retracted. seems to be no problem.

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#4 posted 397 days ago

The real question is does it function correctly? :)

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#5 posted 397 days ago

Iron on #7 is in need of replacement soon. Just a wear issue.
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#6 posted 397 days ago

I haven’t used these yet. Just got them thru ebay, and haven’t even done the cleanup/sharpening yet.

If it just comes down to function, if there’s nothing obviously WRONG, I can live with it.

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#7 posted 397 days ago

Fork pivot pins appear to be positioned differently in
the frog. For that matter, the frog castings look
different in other ways too.

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#8 posted 397 days ago

Yes they do, now that you mention it.

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#9 posted 397 days ago

+1 on the short iron. If you flip them over so the chipbreakers aren’t covering them, it would be interesting to see how much, if any, life is left in that #7 cutter.

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#10 posted 397 days ago

Looks like the 7 is a newer model frog than the 5? One might be the 3rd version Stanley made, and the #7 is the 4th?

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#11 posted 397 days ago

It’s possible. I don’t know the subtleties of the different eras/model numbers. The bed on the 7 is an older style, without the ribs along the toe and heel, and with the older style lever cap without the kidney shaped hole. The 5 seems newer all around, with the ribs, the kidney shaped lever cap hole, and the “Stanley” with the orange background on the lever cap. Here are the irons and chipbreakers apart. 5 on the left, 7 on the right.

Here they are, put together and turned over. Both chipbreakers are now about the same distance from the edges.

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#12 posted 397 days ago

The ribs don’t indicate age for the most part. It just make it a #5C (corrugated) instead of a #5.

The length of the #7 iron is fine. You’ll have to do a lot of woodworking to use it up. The length of the iron also has nothing to do with the adjustment. The iron move independent of the chip breaker. The chip breaker moves the iron with the adjuster.

It doesn’t sound like you have a problem, just 2 different vintage planes.

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JJohnston

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#13 posted 397 days ago

These are the ribs (or lack of) that I was referring to. These are both smooth soles.

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#14 posted 397 days ago

ahhh, sorry, miss understood. That does make the #5 newer.

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#15 posted 397 days ago

No problem. Guess I’ve got some work to do before I can tell for sure.

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