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Forum topic by jimbarstow posted 07-20-2013 02:24 AM 1862 views 0 times favorited 14 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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jimbarstow

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07-20-2013 02:24 AM

I just finished making 48 mortises with my old delta desktop mortiser and decided it’s time to upgrade. I’m trying to decide between
2 floorstanding machines: the general 75-075 and the grizzly GO448. The general gets really good reviews but I can’t find any of the G0448. (The are reviews of grizzly’s older floor standing machine and they weren’t very good). The G0448 looks to be completely different from the old floor standing machine.

I have 3 grizzly machines (15” planer, 12” jointer, and 17” bandsaw) and have been quite pleased with them. (I am an amateur but since I retired this year my backlog of projects has increased exponentially with requests from people who know I have more time.) I’d like to go with the grizzly even though it is more expensive but I’m reluctant to by a machine that is an unknown versus one that is known to be good.

Anyone have any experience with the G0448?


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HorizontalMike

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#1 posted 07-20-2013 02:38 AM

Have you ever thought of building your own mortising machine? I built a router based horizontal mortising machine and love it to death. I now tend to use floating tenons much more often, especially since they are hidden from view, just as strong, and easy to do.

Here is mine. I started with Greg Paolini’s design and designed and added an efficient dust collection system and a lifting mechanism that can be locked down for accuracy. Guessing, but probably have less than $150 in the system, not counting the router.
http://lumberjocks.com/projects/56897

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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#2 posted 07-20-2013 02:41 AM

General hands down easy pick

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#3 posted 07-20-2013 02:44 AM

from what I’ve read you get a few more chisels with the general then the grizzly and you just missed out on 10% code from grizzly and the general is a tad cheaper and has far more reviews then the 2 I found for the Grizzly, if it were me I’d still choose the Grizzly though, but I’m in love with their stuff and customer service.

-- Nick, “Discovering the truth about ourselves is a lifetime's work, but it's worth the effort.” ― Fred Rogers, Be My Neighbor

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#4 posted 07-20-2013 02:54 AM

Any suggestions from whom to buy general equipment if I go that way?

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#5 posted 07-20-2013 03:33 AM

I’m not a Grizzly fan so I found this.

http://web.hypersurf.com/~charlie2/GeneralMortiser/MortisersComparison.html

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Woodmaster1

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#6 posted 07-20-2013 03:46 AM

Look a the Bailiegh mortiser they are on sale for 675.75. Looks like it has the same specs. as the two you are looking at.

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#7 posted 07-20-2013 03:55 AM

I don’t know how much they are but I really enjoyed the powermatic mortiser I used in a class. The only thing negative I remember was making sure that the hold downs are securely fastened.

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#8 posted 07-20-2013 04:32 AM

I think the general is a really good mortiser but they are quite high, and really if I cut a lot of holes in wood I would go with the horizontal much more versitile unlimited you might say I like Big Mike’s Idea you may want to moritise something large and a horizontal router type would be quicker by miles thats what I see in alot of cabinet shops and they are fast and you basically can use one bit or cutter make any size mortise I think

-- Work in the city woodshop in tha country

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bowedstraight

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#9 posted 07-20-2013 04:36 AM

Mike’s mortiser looks well built and by what I see can be made adjustable for just about anything you want to plunge a hole in, even a floor model mortiser has limits with the horizontal it’s basically unlimted

-- Work in the city woodshop in tha country

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#10 posted 07-20-2013 12:46 PM

I actually just started a thread that may help you out. Home Depot has General equipment on sale right now…pretty significant savings as well:

http://www.homedepot.com/p/General-International-1-in-Hollow-Chisel-Tilting-Mortiser-75-075-M1/204205781#.UeqGLW37Y4k

I just picked up the 75-040

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#11 posted 07-20-2013 01:26 PM

General without question, but I’d check out Powermatic before making a final decision. Also, when you decide to either upgrade or replace chisels, do yourself a favor and check out Forest City—they’re the best I’ve found. It’s my understanding that Whiteside (router bits) bought Forest City, so that should give you an idea of the quality level.

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#12 posted 07-20-2013 02:49 PM

General is my recommendation but they are not cheap, I did have an older Powermatic floor model (late 60”s) which worked well.

-- Randy "You are judged as much by the questions you ask as the answers you give..."

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#13 posted 07-20-2013 03:02 PM

My pick would be the General. I own or have owned a large number of different General tools and they have been excellent and well made.

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#14 posted 07-20-2013 04:09 PM

Although Home Depot sells the mortiser, it doesn’t apparently sell the closed stand. The well known tool suppliers that do list the stand have it as out-of-stock. Any suggestions on where to look?

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