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408 days ago

,Researching these three Saws, and trying to decide where to go with it (which one)

-- steve/USA


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#1 posted 408 days ago

There’s a bunch of critical info that’s missing. Both saws have riving knives. There are pros and cons with both, and the G1023RL series has several advantages worth mentioning. Vertical dovetail ways for improved precision when the blade moves up and down, a serpentine belt for smoother operation, the Shop Fox Classic fence, and a blade shroud. The G0690 is a pre-riving knife design modified to accept a riving knife. I’m not knocking the virtues of the saw, but it’s not all lopsided. It’s subjective at best…no doubt.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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#2 posted 408 days ago

Thanks Knotscott, I respect your opinion.
I agree, I just really think the G0690 is a better choice, that’s all.
I seen your pics on your shop and read your bio.
Awesome shop!!!...I mean real nice(.)

-- steve/USA

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#3 posted 408 days ago

Knotscott – NICE shop fox saw…and your entire shop is VERY impressive! Well done.
I have not 1, one, single thing to say derogatory towards your WHOLE SET-UP. Really cool shop! Real nice.

~:)~

-- steve/USA

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#4 posted 408 days ago

Knotscott – are you stating that the 1023RLX moves vertically on dovetail ways, like the Laguna.

i.e. that the Grizzly 1023RLX’s saw blade/arbor/ riving knife, raise and lower at a true vertical rise…?

-- steve/USA

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#5 posted 408 days ago

I just read the 1023RLX ad at Grizzly.com again, it is impressive but why don’t they state that the arbor and riving knife rise vertically? If it does, I am happy, but why wouldn’t they state it…? It’s a major deal, why not say…it.

-- steve/USA

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#6 posted 408 days ago

Yes. The 1023RL series moves vertically on dovetail ways. Some of the Laguna’s do too. Why they don’t say so is beyond me….

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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#7 posted 408 days ago

I love my 1023…use it almost daily. Yeah, I am retired.

-- Handcrafted by Mike Henderson - Channelview, Texas

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#8 posted 408 days ago

RPM of the motor doesnt mean RPM of the blade. because the 3600 motor might be geared different then the 4200 but the final speed of the blade might be the same or opposite to what you would think.

just throwing that out there…...
and i dont have either saw… but i have been looking at both because when i can afford it. its my next upgrade i believe.

-- David Henley

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#9 posted 408 days ago

”Knotscott – NICE shop fox saw…”

You may already know this, but Shop Fox and Grizzly are owned by the same guy. In this case, the Shop Fox W1677 saw is about identical to the former Griz G1023”SL”, that preceded the G0690 and G1023”RL” series…..the guts are actually more similar to the current G0690 than the new 1023”RL”, but without a riving knife. (I did add a BORK riving knife to mine).

Former Griz G1023”S” series:

G0690/0691:

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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#10 posted 407 days ago

Investigated, and found the ONE!

SHOP FOX W1820

Everything I am looking for in a new TS…
3hp Leeson
true riving knife
outstanding fence
I have a INCRA miter Express and 1000hd, but the miter gauge w/fence and stop is great too.
and the Cabinet is really NICE!

I plan to put my old TS facing the left side, behind the extension table on the right, facing the /my outfeed table behind new shop fox, and keep it dedicated to my Ridge dado set up.

-- steve/USA

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#11 posted 407 days ago

I cannot find a IMAGE of the trunion in this cabinet. I can find the manual and breakdown, but a true image in real life, I can’t find…any help?

ALSO, the W1824 at Amazon, has NO MENTION, anywhere, as to the size of the motor, nothing.

The W1820 is $500 more than the G0691…wonder why so much, must be ???better?

-- steve/USA

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#12 posted 407 days ago

I believe the W1824 is a hybrid….looks to be the same as the G0715P to me.

As far as I can tell without seeing it in person the W1819/1820 has the same guts as the G0690/G0691. It’s also the same as one of the former Laguna Platinum saws, Craftex CX200, an Oliver, and a Baliegh saw. The 1819/1820 have a 2 year warranty and dealer support.

W1819/W1820:

Here’s the online manual for the W1820.



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#13 posted 407 days ago

small trunion…hmm. But 2 yr warranty is nice. I’d prefer a heavier trunion from corner to corner…but.

Still have not found out what the W1824 has for a motor…? I am guessing a 1.5 hp, maybe a 2hp 110V??

-- steve/USA

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#14 posted 407 days ago

W1824 and G0715P state 2hp. Table mounted trunnions.

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#15 posted 407 days ago

But what am I expecting for $1500

-- steve/USA

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