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Forum topic by elm posted 07-15-2013 06:40 AM 1439 views 0 times favorited 7 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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elm

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07-15-2013 06:40 AM

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Help, please. I found an old Craftsman Shaper, model-113.239.20, serial-8236-00023, at an auction. Then I found its manual on-line. Someone made a stand for it. I will get a motor and cutters if I can resolve a missing parts problem first.

Per the manual’s exploded diagram, there should be a “lock stud” (threaded rod), “lock knob”, “washer”, and “jam nut” that come from the right side to enter the “support table” and tighten against the “spindle assembly” once the cutter is set to the correct height. The exploded diagram specs 3/8×24 threads on each end of the “lock stud”. However, on the actual shaper the two holes in the “support table” that accept the “lock stud” have no threads. And they are not the same diameter.

Can anyone out there offer a solution to this problem or point me to a resource that might help?

Thanks
Ed


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mtenterprises

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#1 posted 07-15-2013 10:21 AM

Without seeing a picture of the parts I would suggest trying this idea.
Since there are no threads in the hole first find a threaded rod that fits into the hole, now on this rod thread on first 1 hex nut then a lock washer, then a second hex nut. Thread these on far enough that the rod will pass through the hole with some extra sticking out, now tighten the 2 nuts against each other. This makes a stop on the rod. On the end that passes through the hole place a flat washer, now slide this assembly into the hole and on the other side thread on a SQUARE nut. The corners of the square nut may find some place to bind on to keep it from rotating so that with a knob on the other end of the threaded rod you will be able to tighten the assembly up. Just my take on a quick fix that might work.
MIKE

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elm

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#2 posted 07-15-2013 11:53 AM

Thanks Mike. That may work. Should have included specific parts reference in the manual. Here it is. This link http://vintagemachinery.org/pubs/detail.aspx?id=616 should take you to the manual. Exploded view and parts list are pages 22, 23. Parts in question are 7, 8, 9, & 10. If this gives anyone an idea, I would really like to hear back.
Thanks
Ed

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#3 posted 07-15-2013 10:21 PM

Hope this helps. The thread on the “inside” part is 3/4 inch long. The shaft outside the knob is 4 3/8 inch long, 3 3/8 are inside of the housing when tightened. It took many turns to go from tight to removed. May have been the entire 3/4 length of thread.

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#4 posted 07-15-2013 10:39 PM

Thanks to those of you that have responded. However, what am I missing? The holes to receive the rod have no threads. So, how can a threaded rod be inserted into a hole with no threads?

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#5 posted 07-15-2013 10:54 PM

I simply unscrewed mine and measured it. I was hoping that knowing that it goes 3 inches into the hole before starting to thread would help. the spindle is inside the housing so I can’t see what is happening. I am assuming that it is screwing into threads on the other side of the spindle housing. I had to wiggle the spindle a bit to get it to rethread.

-- My favorite projects were firewood bound

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#6 posted 07-15-2013 11:12 PM

I removed my spindle assembly. There is no hole through the spindle assembly. The lock stud simply tightens up against the spindle assembly once the height is set to prevent any further movement. The spindle has a cutter on one end and a pulley on the other end and spins inside the spindle assembly. Can you see any threads inside the hole from which you removed the lock stud? Same model number – 113.239201?

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#7 posted 07-15-2013 11:56 PM

It appears as though a captured nut (welded maybe?) has come out of the hole closest to the spindle. I looked through the top beside of the spindle. I can see that the “lock stud” threads into the hole near the spindle. The outside hole is about 1/2 inch. Does it appear that a weld has broken loose from the support table inner hole? Maybe you could tack weld or epoxy a nut at the hole near the spindle. I wish I could be of more help but I can’t see inside very well without taking it off the stand.

-- My favorite projects were firewood bound

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