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Forum topic by Kindlingmaker posted 07-09-2013 02:18 AM 1583 views 1 time favorited 20 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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07-09-2013 02:18 AM

I downloaded a program today that lets me see who is gathering information when I use the internet. When I just clicked onto LumberJocks these programs are collecting data.

Google Adsense
Google Analytics
ScoreCard Research Beacon

I have some issues with this…

-- Never board, always knotty, lots of growth rings

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#1 posted 07-09-2013 02:22 AM

And, also realize the government is one of Google’s biggest clients!

-- Perfection is the difference between too much and not enough.

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#2 posted 07-09-2013 02:35 AM

I click on a few things of no interest to me once in a while just to throw them off the trail ;-))

-- Bob in WW ~ "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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#3 posted 07-09-2013 03:44 AM

Personally have my own issues with Google that involve their political involvement and agenda.How they choose what and how they recognize certain holidays, etc. etc. While having a so-called “progressive” political stance may be popular with the “in” crowd,it tends to rub me the wrong way.

Frankly, don’t think a company is going to fare well down the road when they try to mix business, with their own political views. Most companies have a political sway, but at least be subtle about it. Don’t jam it down my throat.

Yes they are on top of hill now, but time will tell. Similarly, yours truly will likely never own an Apple computer. Just don’t like the way they do business. And also because I tend to avoid “cult” products. If I have to camp out for days or stand in a line for hours for something, Its not worth having in my opinion.

But I do like using Chrome and also like gmail. Regardless, have considered dropping them for ages but haven’t pulled the trigger yet. The latest discontinution of Google Reader was another move I wasn’t pleased with. As that was a very handy news aggregator.

My suggestion would be to browse anonymously . Suppose that is not possible when logging in to a site. Maybe Mozilla Firefox would be another option . Whatever browser you use, download AdBlock. It may limit the ability of
the tracking hounds to follow your “tracks”. If nothing else, you won’t see a bunch of ads . Especially, ads based on your browsing habits.

Most times, when downloading and installing software, you consent to some type of agreement on disclosure of information. So its likely, if you clicked “I Agree”, you consented to this type of tracking and use of your browsing

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#4 posted 07-09-2013 07:47 AM

My issues with Google etc is they constantly lock up my browser by timing out on their crap cause I’m on dial up. As for as the gathering info is concerned, that kind of simple, keep your personal info off your damn computer. When you setup windows and anything else, keep your personal info off it. Windows asks what is your name, I told it Me, it asks who it is owned by, easy Mine, etc. I also have a special junk mail address for anyone who demands one that I don’t wish to give it to. It valid but last time I looked it was flooded to the max with like 500 Viagra ads or some such nonsense. LOL, Betty Crocker is the worst to sell your email address.
Facebook is another that really ticks me off, that site locks me up constantly, I wish people would quit putting Facebook on everything. It totally sucks and is unreliable.

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#5 posted 07-09-2013 07:55 AM

As for the paranoia aspect – it strikes deep – I’ve heard that some new programs allow online retailers to customize their prices based on your buying habits determined by tracking software. You think you’re getting a catalog price because the display on the screen looks just like a catalog. For example the tracking software may observe that you’re a sucker for woodworking tools and make impulse purchases of such at checkout so offer you “sweet” last second deals. I always comparison shop even for little things so I guess that old habit will help here. Or am I just being paranoid?

-- Dave, New England - “We are made to persist. that's how we find out who we are.” ― Tobias Wolff

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#6 posted 07-09-2013 09:15 AM

The Internet has created an explosion of information access. We have benefitted from it.

As with all things, there is a trade-off. It might be past time to disconnect.

Is Google more nefarious than benevolent? I believe it is.

We are being monitored… For now. For what purpose? I suppose the answer for that depends on whom you ask.

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#7 posted 07-09-2013 10:43 AM

”Resistance is Futile… You will be assimilated”

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#8 posted 07-09-2013 11:24 AM

If worried about tracking online check out these search engines:

Accept the fact someone is looking where I go on the internet as long as no longer get those crazy e-mails.
I do limit myself signing up at web sites. Do click on ads and links at web sites I join to help pay for site.

What bothers me is have to go to internet provider to erase e-mails off their server every couple of months. At one time could delete e-mails from desktop and server at same time. Also, web sites with very little information and plenty of sales links.

-- Bill

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#9 posted 07-09-2013 01:15 PM

I was on Facebook until I dicovered ads and things showing up on Facebook that I used the internet for using other programs. The part that really made me drop Facebook was that Facebook was NOT turned on when I was at those other sites and still they were tracking me. I do love the internet and many of the sites but being an old guy I still think that data collecting should not be allowed and if different sites and programs demand it then I will refrain from using them.

-- Never board, always knotty, lots of growth rings

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#10 posted 07-09-2013 01:19 PM

Just being on the internet is a risk even if you don’t do anything.

helluvawreck aka Charles

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#11 posted 07-09-2013 07:39 PM

Ghostery looks interesting. Oh for the days when all you had to worry about were cookies.

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#12 posted 07-09-2013 08:03 PM

Have downloaded Ghostery. Working so far. Still an ad now and then. One site had seven different “trackers” all watching me. Not now…

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use

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#13 posted 07-09-2013 10:01 PM

If you are interested I some of the ways this information, and other (like cell phone metadata) can be used, watch this video. It is one thing when this information is being tracked to market to you…. completely another when it is being used to suppress votes, target political view points, and others. I realized that I was joining a site whose purpose was, in part, to form a community for marketing, and expect tracking to go on. The real issue is with Government, and how they are using, and defining use. It would take a warrant to read your emails, but after 30 days it only takes a subpena, because of how it changes from being defined as private communications, to stored records. hmmm..

-- Who is John Galt?

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#14 posted 07-09-2013 10:12 PM

Interesting topic. Although politically I’d consider myself quite conservative (so much so that I’ve considered re-registering as an independent because the Republican party is too damn liberal on so many things) I don’t have a super huge problem having the gov read my emails, or listen to my phone conversations, as long as it’s for the sake of national security. However, is it ALL for national security??? Probably not. Anyways, I’m just careful what I put in writing whist on the net. As far as sellers of this or that tracking my every move, now that IS annoying to me. But, it also annoys me that the NY State Dept. Of Motor Vehicles is allowed to release MY information to … whomever (at least that’s what I’ve been told). Stores gather and release info about you every time you use a credit card. Buy a new car, and all of a sudden you start getting junk mail from Geico and a pile of other insurance companies. The internet is just a small piece of the pie. You can run but you can’t hide…...

-- Bill, central where near the "big apple"

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#15 posted 07-09-2013 10:21 PM

bbc “this is just annoying” It stopped being annoying once the NSA started actively collecting it. It is no longer just private market marketing. This information, and much like it has, and is being used by the current administration to suppress voters and donators to the conservative parties. THIS is what the IRS scandal is, THIS is what the intimidation of AP reporters is. The IRS information on political groups, was turned over to political groups on the other side to target protests. They were given the names and addresses of the donors to political campaigns. The intimidation did not just happen at the IRS, and you had better believe that the metadata that the NSA is currently collecting, Including this conversation now, (THANKS TIME WARNER, GOOGLE, AND OTHER COMPLIANT TURN COATS) is being used by this administration, and future if we don’t get it stopped, fur purely political agendas.

-- Who is John Galt?

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