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Forum topic by rich2431 posted 06-30-2013 05:23 PM 580 views 0 times favorited 3 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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06-30-2013 05:23 PM

Hi all. I am looking for opinions and comments on the following: I’m looking at dust collection for my one man shop and am considering 2 different units. They are: Kraemer SCC 2800 Cyclone unit w 3 hp motor (approx $4000) & 2300 cfm or the Oneida Super Dust Gorilla w 3 hp motor & 1554 cfm (approx $2000)
Among my tools are a minimax FS35 14” planer/jointer and a 10” unisaw. Among my concerns are ease of maintenance and efficiency. will either of these keep my air clean and fit to breath? how long will a filter last vs a cloth bag? I hope I will hear from someone who owns one or the other ...or something else you think is better. Also, a friend suggested mounting it outdoors to avoid the noise & mess and save space, but I’m concerned about heat loss in the winter (i live in new york) ...all comments welcome. -Rich


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#1 posted 06-30-2013 06:10 PM

I get beat up for my opinions on Oneida, but they are mine and I’ll share. I have the 2 HP SDG, bought about 6 years ago. I upsized the motor to a 5 HP because on my system the smaller motor was overloading. The Oneida are fairly well built (or at least they were, they may have cheapened up some lately) but not so well designed. Miine gets the separation they claim (Oneida: 99%, me 98.4%; the one time I measured it) but that still allows a lot of fines to get to the filter. For me that was so bad I put a gauge on it to monitor when it was time to clean the filter. That was typically twice per 55 gallon drum of dust. That also got the filter so clogged I just replaced it, with another manufacturer HEPA filter that turned out to be pretty much plug and play for a lot less than Oneida charged . Oneida worked with me for some time before blowing me off on my complaint about the separation…so it’s something that has been analyzed to death. I have nothing to offer on the Kraemer, but do suggest you at least look at the Clearview. I also agree with your concern about heating, I would love to vent mine outside, if you do that there’s no need to worry about how well the DC separates. Now, one more time…just my opinions based on my experience.

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#2 posted 06-30-2013 06:25 PM

thanks for taking the time to answer, fred. the clearview has come to my attention also, but honestly i dont like the gimicky “see thru”plastic housing …seems like one good shot with a plank when i’m in a hurry… but otherwise people seem to like them. how much of an ordeal is it to clean your filter?

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#3 posted 06-30-2013 07:23 PM

My process was a little involved. I’d start with the filter on the machine I’d beat the sides of it with the palm of my hand to dislodge whatever I could….this stuff was always caught in that little can on the bottom. Then I’d dismount the filter, which was kind of a pain in itself, and sit on the floor. Covering the hop with a piece of scrap wood I’d blow it out from the outside several passes. Then flip it over top to bottom and repeat, this always left a good sized pile of dust on the floor to deal with. My last step then was to lay it on it’s side and lift one end about 18” and drop it. I’d repeat that step several times at each end of the filter…then stand it upon end again and let the dust fall to the floor. At that point I’d be ready to put it back on the DC. The entire routine would take about 1/2 hour. This was with the stock non-hepa filter that Oneida sold at the time. I was told I could have hosed it out with water but I never tried that. I have a gauge on my DC, and I would clean when it read 2” of water, Oneida states you should clean when it reaches 3” water. I would clean and get down below 2” until the next time. I replaced it when I couldn’t get it below 2” by cleaning. BTW, that polycarbonate on the Clearview isn’t really a gimmick, just a way to make the unit in an affordable manner. While I know many cyber buddies who have one, I’ve never heard anyone cracked their body in some manner. I certainly wished i had bought that one instead, and may still upgrade to it some day. Good luck with your decision. BTW, I replaced my filter with one from PSI. The new one has about 350 sq.ft. of media (OEM was less than 100) and MERV 15 rated for filtering. It was about $175, versus a comparable one from Oneida for about $400 (I think). All that, and it’s made in USA.

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