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Forum topic by RobH posted 10-25-2008 02:17 PM 732 views 0 times favorited 14 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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RobH

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10-25-2008 02:17 PM

Hey all,

I am in the middle of putting together some Christmas presents which require me to glue some cork to some plywood. I thought I would be industrious and buy roll cork and use contact cement to glue it to the board. This has turned out to be a total disaster. I had to get water based contact cement because I needed to work inside (temperatures). Needless to say the stuff I bought at Lowe’s did not work. Not one bit of adhesion not matter what I do.

I would still like to use the cork, but I cannot use the solvent-based contact cement in the house (unless I want a divorce). I was thinking 3M Super77 adhesive might work also. Anybody here with an opinion on this, or preferably, with experience with this. Will the Super77 work or do I just need to forget the cork?

Thanks in advance,

-- -- Rob Hix, King George, VA


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JSW

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#1 posted 10-25-2008 02:25 PM

Hi
The 3M product may work well for you. Not knowing exactly how long, wide, etc is a problem for me, but hotmelt glue may be an alternative also. A good brand of double stick tape might do it also.
Good luck with your project.

-- Jon

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#2 posted 10-25-2008 02:40 PM

Rob, how about CA? I’ve used it to apply cork lips on turned boxes to decent effect. If the area is huge you could probably use white PVA inside (Elmer’s). Can’t imagine school glue could get you in dutch. But I’ve been wrong before about what can get a fellow in dutch with the Mrs. :^D

-- "Bordnerizing" perfectly good lumber for over a decade.

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RobH

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#3 posted 10-25-2008 03:17 PM

For those who want to know, these are 12” x 16” sheets. So, CA is out. I had not thought of double sided tape, but it might work.

-- -- Rob Hix, King George, VA

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sIKE

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#4 posted 10-25-2008 03:21 PM

I think a spray like Super77 would work great for you.

-- //FC - Round Rock, TX - "Experience is what you get just after you need it"

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#5 posted 10-25-2008 04:37 PM

Because of the absorbent factor of cork it penetrates into the cork therefore no adhesion! If you paint the plywood and coat the cork with adhesive then when dry aply it to both it will bond. OR, You may be able to find some peel and stick

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Paul

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#6 posted 10-25-2008 05:21 PM

I am retired from 3M and have some experience with adhesives (but not with cork).
The 77 should work but if you do it you should spray both surfaces, let them dry till they are tacky and then firmly press into place. You need to let them dry so the solvent can evaporate from the adhesive otherwise you would trap the solvent in between the layers and it would not stick as well You’ll need to get it right the first time because it will be like contact cement and you can’t reposition it. .

Also, I think I would try some Tightbond or other white glue on a test piece, I don’t know why it would not work but you need to test everything first before trying it on a finished project. That would eliminate all the odor and hazzard of the spray adhesives.
Good luck, let us know what works for you.

-- If you say 'It's good enough', it probably isn't.

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lew

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#7 posted 10-25-2008 05:23 PM

Rob,

I am not sure if the Super77 is the same stuff as I used but I went to the auto parts store and got upholstery spray on adhesive. It doesn’t seem to soak into the surfaces too much and really holds well. It does have an oder, so test it first- just to keep the Mrs. happy!

Lew

-- Lew- Time traveler. Purveyor of the Universe's finest custom rolling pins.

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teenagewoodworker

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#8 posted 10-25-2008 05:57 PM

try gorilla glue. i used some to glue some hardboard on the other wing for my table saw last night and it worked very well.

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mski

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#9 posted 10-25-2008 06:03 PM

RobH you must be doing something wrong, the water base contact should work, you do have to let the water base stuff dry a lot longer than solvent and the temperature can’t be too low!

-- MARK IN BOB, So. CAL

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RobH

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#10 posted 10-25-2008 07:17 PM

Mark and Sandhill,

I have tried everything with that stuff. My guess is that Lowe’s does not actually move enough of the stuff to keep a fresh supply (especially in gallons). I am guessing that it is an old batch. Needless to say, no matter how hard I tried it did not work. So, the whole gallon is going back sometime next week. I am tired of the bull excrement that we have to put up with from those places.

I know someone else that had a similar problem. Took it back and Lowe’s would not take it back because it was partially used and they “could not put it back on the shelf.” What!!! It is defective, you’re not supposed to put it back on the shelf. That story actually opened my eyes a lot.

-- -- Rob Hix, King George, VA

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#11 posted 10-25-2008 07:52 PM

Try spray adhesive I have about six canisters of the stuff can be bought on ebay I uise it main ly to fix discs to my 16 inch sanders it works well sparay on and leave for about ten minutes then push together like contsact cement

-- excuse my typing as I have a form of parkinsons disease

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Dan'um Style

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#12 posted 10-25-2008 07:56 PM

Liquid nails is my suggestion. It is cheap and will do the job.

-- keeping myself entertained ... Humor and fun lubricate the brain

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#13 posted 10-26-2008 03:59 AM

I think Liquid Hide Glue would work well for this. I used it to glue leather vise jaw liners on and it worked great. I would think the cork would be only slightly more absorbent than the leather. If you have to replace the cork later, the hide glue will dissolve with very hot water.

-- Use the fence Luke

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RobH

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#14 posted 10-26-2008 01:29 PM

Hey fellow lumberjocks,

I finally got the water-based adhesive to work after letting it cure LONG after the dry time on the can. Originally I tried at 30 minutes and an hour, and no luck. Well, last night I tried it one more time while trying to decide what to do with the ruined pieces. It worked like a charm. Here’s the kicker. I waited 12 hours between coating and sticking. I then tried some more before I went to bed last night. Six or seven hours later (this morning) they stuck better than the ones last night.

I went yesterday and purchased some 3M Super90 spray adhesive and I plan on using it this afternoon to knock out the rest of these things, but I wanted everyone to know that the contact cement did eventually work.

As always, thanks for the advice. I will post pictures as I go if I do not forget.

-- -- Rob Hix, King George, VA

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