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mds2

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06-19-2013 07:47 PM

Topic tags/keywords: plane

A co-worker of mine is cleaning out his grandfather’s wood shop and came across a bunch of hand planes. A couple old woodies, with no markings that I saw at first glance. A Stanley 45, but missing all the blades and probably a few other parts. Stanley two-tone no 3 in good shape. I have a two tone no.4 at home that I use more than any other plane. Then there are two Stanley Bailey no.5’s, one corrugated, one not. The non-corrugated one has a broken handle. The corrugated one is missing the blade, chip breaker and cap, so I think I will combine the parts on them and make one plane. Then there is a Stanley no.5 1/4 but I have no idea how old it is. It is also missing the iron and chip breaker. Lastly other than a couple unmarked no.4’s is a Bedrock no.605, but it has a Sergent cap and a replacement handle. I dont know why I’m posting this other than I like talking about planes and dont know anyone in the real world that does. I’m wondering are there any gems in this bunch?

Stanley Bailey 5 1/4
Stanley Bailey 5
Stanley Bailey 5
Bedrock 605

5 1/4 Adjustment lever.


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Gibernak

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#1 posted 06-19-2013 08:00 PM

Looks like a good find. I have a bailey 5 1/4, I like it allot. I read somewhere that they were made from 1920-1947 so they are pretty old.

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#2 posted 06-19-2013 08:06 PM

The 5 1/4 has a patent date on it of 1910. Same as the bedrock.

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#3 posted 06-19-2013 08:08 PM

All good finds really. The flat topped bedrock is the homerun of the bunch but that handle does need to be replaced. nhplaneparts on ebay has a great amount of parts where you might be able to find an original cap. The last bedrock I saw at the flea market was marked at around $200. Id say yours is worth around $75 as it sits now.

The 5 1/4 was known as a junior jack.

As a matter of fact I think you deserve a big fat YOU SUCK!

-- "there aren’t many hand tools as awe-inspiring as the #8 jointer. I mean, it just reeks of cast iron heft and hubris" - Smitty

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#4 posted 06-19-2013 08:12 PM

#5 1/4’s made from 1921-1983. #5 1/4c’s made from 1921-1942.

Since you didn’t say what you paid, not sure if it was a huge score or not, but the flat top bedrocks always go for a premium compared to standard bailey’s of the same model. All jack planes, but nothing wrong with that :-)

-- Mos - Twin Cities, MN -- Stanley #45 Evangelist - www.youtube.com/MosquitoMods

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mds2

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#5 posted 06-19-2013 08:16 PM

Well, I don’t own these… yet. He keeps him hawing about what he wants to do with them. Keep or sale. I think I’ll make him an offer on the bedrock, then replace the handle and lever cap. Maybe try to get the 5 1/4 too. The others need more work than I want to invest.

Maybe I’’ try to get the two-tone no.3 too. I know it isnt anything special but it will match my other ones.

Man planes are slippery slope.

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grfrazee

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#6 posted 06-19-2013 08:16 PM

I have a hard time finding 5 1/4s for anything less than $80, even at flea markets. Even though you’re missing a few parts from it, I’d say you’re in good shape.

The 605 is a great plane. Congrats on the score.

-- -=Pride is not a sin=-

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Mosquito

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#7 posted 06-19-2013 08:20 PM

Man planes are slippery slope.

Is not! I can stop anytime my wallet has to, erm wait :-)

-- Mos - Twin Cities, MN -- Stanley #45 Evangelist - www.youtube.com/MosquitoMods

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#8 posted 06-19-2013 08:37 PM

5-1/4 iron and chip breaker are easy to find—they are the same size as a #3. Depends on whether you want a junior jack or not.

Man planes are slippery slope.

But it’s a fun ride.

-- "The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money." Alexis de Tocqueville, 1835

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Don W

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#9 posted 06-19-2013 10:16 PM

its a fun ride for sure.

I’d try to get a few. The 605 is a nice jack. As already stated the 5 1/4 is a handy plane to have around.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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#10 posted 06-19-2013 10:32 PM

Great find for sure, well, maybe. Depends on what the guy wants to do with them. If he gets on ebay and looks around and figures out what they are and what they are worth he may shut you out. I hope you get them tho. I just scored a seriously nice 5 1/4 on fleabay for 65.00. The previous owner, or rather one of the previous owners, drilled a hole in the toe to hang the damn thing but other than that its super nice, well it was once I worked a little magic on it and put an edge on the blade. Hope this works out in your favor.

-- I was born at a very young age, as I grew up, I got older.

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mds2

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#11 posted 06-21-2013 01:04 PM

I did a little cleanup work on the Stanley Bailey no.5’s last night. The one was in amazing condition under all the dirt. The parts it was missing I scavenged from the other no. 5.

I did buy the bedrock no.5. I have it all taken apart right now and it is great shape. I haven’t been able to find a bedrock lever cap online yet. He decided to keep the 5 1/4 and the rest of them… for now anyway.

This is basically before and after since they were both in about the same shape.

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#12 posted 06-21-2013 02:09 PM

Looking good!

I will warn you that if you do find a single line Bedrock cap, it will not be cheap. There is no reason the plane won’t be a great user with a plain cap, but if you are after authenticity, you can expect to pay $40-50 for just that part.

A couple of options. This one is a current ebay listing.

Contact nhplaneparts and let him know what you are looking for. When he comes up with one, he’ll let you know it will be listed. Prices are fair (always as a buy it now so you don’t have to worry about bidding and being sniped) and shipping is extremely fast.

-- "The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money." Alexis de Tocqueville, 1835

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