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06-19-2013 05:28 PM

Seems like quite a deal on CL. (Which seem rare these days)

I don’t really have room, and am saving my pennies for a more fundamental shop beginning (SawStop) but I might be convinced that this (seemingly older) Grizzly Band Saw is too good a deal to pass on.

Maybe this saw is intended for a machine shop rather than wood shop?


$400

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#1 posted 06-19-2013 05:31 PM

looks good to me

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#2 posted 06-19-2013 06:33 PM

I called the guy. It looks like this wont be a quick ‘come and get it” type deal, which actually pleases me. We set up a tentative meeting on Friday to check it out.

So here’s what I would like feedback on: does anyone recognize the model? The apparatus at the front of the table? Rewsaw capacity? (It looks rather minimal considering the size of this saw)

He says it works, and was not his, a friend had him storing it through a divorce a few years back and has since abandoned it to him, (with permission to sell, according to the seller) so the seller actually knows nothing about the tool.

I hear much praise for Grizzly products and sevices here, and would appreciate any I insights as to what I should look for. I must say, I am feeling excited. I do have a table saw, which I did tune up to the degree of usability, so I could conceivably build the Hutch my wife wants if I bought this saw.

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#3 posted 06-19-2013 07:10 PM

Send the photo to Grizzly. They can identify it and give you specs and maybe even point you to a manual.

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#4 posted 06-19-2013 07:18 PM

if it sat with tension on the blade for a long time… you may have flat spots on the tires…

you definitely want to turn it on and see it run, and note any excessive vibration

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#5 posted 06-19-2013 07:35 PM

I think that saw is based on the General 490, which is
one of the finer band saws ever made in that general
size class.

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#6 posted 06-19-2013 08:37 PM

Thanks guys. I took the advice to contact Grizzly. Nice people!

I await the response from the tech support department.

I see lots of band saws for reasonable prices there too, but this one looks beefy and in the class of the more expensive. I’m thinking I’m going to pull the trigger here. Maybe offer 300 and settle at 350.

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#7 posted 06-19-2013 09:48 PM

Rule I go by is to “just go ahead buy the machine and just figure it all out later…”. Is it good or bad, who knows? That’s what I did when I paid 75.00 for our PM 20” bandsaw.

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#8 posted 06-19-2013 10:10 PM

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#9 posted 06-19-2013 10:38 PM

I lol’d. It does resemble Gumby.

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#10 posted 06-20-2013 05:18 AM

I have a similar saw, Buckethead. Mine is older, not the “Z series” and fewer labels. In fact, it has no model number on it at all. (How early is it? Well, the front rail for the fence was full width, so there was no way to get the fence on inside the blade. A hacksaw fixed that. I’m sure subsequent models overcame this embarrassing oversight.)

The “apparatus” which is laying across the fence rails, has nothing to do with the saw.

If this is the same castings as mine, the base with wheels is a plus. Mine is a moose. Just the upper part of the saw, off the base, no motor, no table, requires two herky guys to move it.

I suspect this is a good saw. Not great, in that it may not be too refined but, given adequate horsepower will do whatever it’s fair to ask a medium size bandsaw to do.

$350 would be good if the tires are true. The bearings (guide) will likely have to be replaced; not too expensive a trip around the block.

Kindly,

Lee

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#11 posted 06-20-2013 12:08 PM

Thanks for the knowledge Lee!

I did begin thinking that was just a piece from something else, and that the rails of the saw were being used as a storage rack.

I’m particularly glad that you chimed in, since you have experience with a similar saw.

If I see myself as being in the price range of under $900 for a new BS, would I be better off going new, or would this saw be a similar quality saw given any needed refurbishing?

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#12 posted 06-20-2013 09:41 PM

http://cdn0.grizzly.com/specsheets/g1073z_ds.pdf

For any interested, this is the spec sheet for the saw, which was identified by Grizzly as being model G1073Z. Discontinued, but parts available.

It has a limit of 7-3/8” resaw capacity which seems small to me. IIRC, many 14” bandsaws have a greater resaw capacity than that. Is there a way to increase resaw capacity without radically altering the machine?

It has a 2 HP motor, which seems ample. Any benefits to a smaller saw with less power? (Transport being fairly obvious, even to me.)

Sorry if I’m bugging folks with this. I’m hoping to put together a group of quality machines with a hackers budget, and a novice level of experience.

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#13 posted 06-20-2013 10:31 PM

It has a limit of 7-3/8” resaw capacity which seems small to me. IIRC, many 14” bandsaws have a greater resaw capacity than that. Is there a way to increase resaw capacity without radically altering the machine?

Here’s a riser kit for the G0555P bandsaw….Probably won’t work with the saw you are looking at…Only passing on info so you can get an idea of what is available….You will have to contact Grizzly again for a riser kit compatible with this model….no major modifications…but will have to buy longer blades…check if blades are available

http://www.grizzly.com/products/Riser-Block-Kit-for-G0555P-Polar-Bear-Series-/H3051P

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#14 posted 06-21-2013 12:07 AM

A 2 HP motor on a 14” bandsaw is great! :)
If you want to resaw greater than the capacity of this saw, you probably need a bigger saw.
So I’d ask ya…. do you anticipate needing to resaw something bigger than 7-3/8” ?

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#15 posted 06-21-2013 12:20 AM

That looks like a great deal to me. I have the 17” Griz with the 2 hp motor and love it. That motor will never even grunt resawing. I have resawed 12” Mesquite and Bois de Arc logs and it never complained.

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