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Henrymalik19

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430 days ago

Topic tags/keywords: table saw woodworking power tools craftsman contractor

Hello all I am new to woodworking and am looking to purchase the the table saw. I am interested in buying a used older contractor style saw and restore it. My budget is under 150 so this really is my only choice… I need help in deciding which saw to get off Craigslist.

http://charlotte.craigslist.org/tls/3838448188.html (15 minutes away)

Or …

http://charlotte.craigslist.org/tls/3875368283.html (1 hour away)

The second seems to be a higher end model but is it really worth the drive?


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knotscott

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#1 posted 430 days ago

They’re both nearly the same saw at heart…..US made Emerson contractor saws. The first one has stamped steel wings, the 2nd one has grated cast iron which are stiffer and heavier. The 2nd one also has nicer handwheels…the question is whether its worth $75 more and a longer drive (your call). The “3hp” claim on the front of the saw is meaningless…..the motor plate will say 14 amps, 1hp or possibly 1.5hp. Both saws have a fairly lame fence, but it can be upgraded at a later time. Both saws will need a little TLC and should clean up well. Both saws will need a good alignment, and a good blade (Freud Diablo, CMT, Irwin Marples, DW Precision Trim). Both are decent deals IMO. I’d look into the closer one first and see how it looks and runs in person, then would drive farther if it doesn’t check out.

Did you see this one with grated cast iron wings and an excellent aftermarket Biesemeyer fence? I’d check into this one first for sure. http://charlotte.craigslist.org/tls/3816022403.html

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DIYaholic

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#2 posted 430 days ago

Henrymalik19,
Welcome to LJs.

There is NOT a better person, than knotscott, to answer your question. Hands down he is the LJ TS & blade guru!!! What ever advice he offers, TAKE IT!!!

Good luck on your TS hunt and future use. Looking forward to seeing you around the forums…..

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JayT

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#3 posted 430 days ago

Welcome to LJ. I have a Craftsman 113, nearly identical to the second one you show. I’m with knotscott on this, if the one with the aftermarket fence is available, jump on it.

The stock fence on the 113’s is the weakest part of the saw and you would likely want to upgrade at some point anyways. An upgraded fence and mobile base (if the seller is throwing that in) are worth as much as the saw. If your budget is 150, offer that and see what happens.

-- "The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money." Alexis de Tocqueville, 1835

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patcollins

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#4 posted 430 days ago

I think i would travel an hour, you will save a lot more time than that because it’s not nearly as rusty.

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RibsBrisket4me

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#5 posted 430 days ago

I have the second saw and love it.

I filled in the webbed wings with 1/4 plywood and liquid nails. Added a link belts, Ridgid Fence over time. With a Freud thin kerf 40tooh blade you’re all set!

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MacNut11

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#6 posted 429 days ago

I have a Craftsman TS that’s about 15 or 16 years old it has the same extruded aluminum rails and fence that Todd23 has which is decent but it’s no Biesemeyer. It also has the metal handles, cast iron extensions, and machined pulleys. It only been used sporadically in the last 10 years. It’s a much nicer TS than the first Craftsman TS I bought some 25 years ago and sold it before our last move.

My first Craftsman TS had the stamped steel wings and were very hard to keep in any kind of alignment, very springy. I would take a straight edge with you and check the tables for flatness. I would also check the trunnions for cracks as they will most likely be made of cast aluminum. I remember taking one Craftsman TS back because the main table was so out of flat. I’m a little picky about those sorta things having been a career long Journeyman Machinist.

I just used Searchtempest to search Craigslist and was amazed at the number of Craftsman Table Saws that are in and around the Charlotte area, which happens to not be too far from me.

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Henrymalik19

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#7 posted 429 days ago

Ok thanks for all the help I am going to look at the one for 150 that has bessy fence… Are these saws pretty quiet? I don’t want the neighbors stating a riot on me lol

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Bill White

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#8 posted 429 days ago

Please don’t forget to add a good blade. 50 tooth combo or specific rip or cross cut set. Cheap blades will yield grief big time.
Let us know what ya buy.
Bill

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patcollins

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#9 posted 429 days ago

On mine the only thing you can hear is the whirring of the blade going through the air.

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knotscott

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#10 posted 429 days ago

”Are these saws pretty quiet? ”

No where near as loud as portable jobsite type saw. Without a blade you’ll barely even hear it run….most of the noise with a blade installed will be wind noise. Cutting is a little louder.

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Henrymalik19

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#11 posted 426 days ago

Ok guys I bought the table saw. I purchased one an hour away Witt the upgraded fence..I payed 150 and think I got a pretty good deal. As yo can see though I have a lot of work. Any tips?

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knotscott

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#12 posted 426 days ago

You did great IMO! An Emerson US made saw with metal handwheels, mobile base, grated cast iron wings, and a commercial Biesemeyer fence for $150 is a very solid bargain. The fence is worth $150 as is….the rest was free!

Clean in up, get it aligned well, and get a decent blade for it. You might consider a $20 set of PALS to help with the alignment. You may also want a good aftermarket miter gauge….the basic Incras start at ~ $60, or at the very least build a crosscut sled. Good luck!

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JayT

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#13 posted 426 days ago

Congrats on a great buy!

The top will clean up well with a palm sander, some gray Scotch-Brite pads and some light oil (mineral oil, 3in1 or even WD40). Replace the belt, get it aligned (PALS will help, but it can be done without them, albeit with a lot more frustration) and start making sawdust.

-- "The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money." Alexis de Tocqueville, 1835

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Henrymalik19

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#14 posted 426 days ago

Ok I took the whole saw apart to clean it so why are good things to use to clean it… Clean rust of cradle inside parts etc and make it look nice…

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bandit571

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#15 posted 426 days ago

Mine:

I just combined two of them, to fix up one saw. Upgrade was $25 for the second saw.

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