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06-10-2013 09:25 PM

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Whats the point of minwax natural #209?
I’m sure it must have a use or they wouldn’t produce it, but I can not see any color change at all when it’s applied to pine.

-- David South FLorida

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#1 posted 06-10-2013 09:30 PM

That’s probably why they call it natural.You need to stain todesired colour then add this for protection I suspect. Alistair

-- excuse my typing as I have a form of parkinsons disease

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#2 posted 06-10-2013 09:35 PM

Scotsman…..209 natural is a stain.

-- David South FLorida

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#3 posted 06-10-2013 09:48 PM

I have a rule when buying Minwax products.
If the can says Minwax anywhere on it, don’t buy it.

Looks like 209 is their lightest color. It may color maple or poplar slightly, but that’s about all.

-- Willie, Washington "If You Choose Not To Decide, You Still Have Made a Choice" - Rush

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#4 posted 06-10-2013 09:58 PM

It does work somewhat as a pre-stain conditioner. If you use this on a piece of blotch-prone cherry it will soak into some areas more than others, just as any stain will. Than, while it’s still wet, apply a colored stain and it should penetrate more evenly.

-- Dale Manning, Carthage, NY

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#5 posted 06-11-2013 12:37 AM

The point is profit from the gullible.

-- Clint Searl....Ya can no more do what ya don't know how than ya can git back from where ya ain't been

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#6 posted 06-11-2013 03:33 AM

Minwax natural is simply an oil finish much like linseed oil. It darkens wood slightly and highlights the grain. This is a good thing when you’re using figured woods.

I prefer the Minwax product over linseed oil since it dries faster. Since I prefer to go with natural wood tones wherever possible I actually use #209 in larger quantities than any other stain color.

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#7 posted 06-11-2013 04:03 AM

Hmmmm…Natural......let me think a minute…..oh , I get it now. DOH !!

Penetrates , Stains, and Seals

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#8 posted 06-11-2013 06:29 AM

At the risk of being accused of stating the obvious, a natural stain will give the same colour as a coat of linseed oil or an oil-varnish blend. I strongly suspect that the only substantive difference will be in the price. By the same tolen, “furniture refinisher” is just an overpriced mixture of denatured alcohol and lacquer thinner. It’s all just marketing.

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#9 posted 06-11-2013 03:47 PM

Well, I find it useful as a base for when I am trying to mix a custom color or match another piece. Works quite well for that.

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#10 posted 06-11-2013 04:52 PM

I use a LOT of Minwax Natural, especially on my guitars. Its primary purpose is to make the grain pop and bring out the figure. It dries fairly quickly, and applies just like any other stain. No worries as if I was changing products such as using an oil-varnish blend, tung oil, etc. Also is well suited for a clear base to blend an oil stain into a custom color. Keep it on the shelf all the time.

-- Tsunami Guitars and Custom Woodworking, Cleveland, TN

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#11 posted 06-11-2013 05:35 PM

The Devil made me do ti!

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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#12 posted 06-11-2013 06:54 PM

If I can amend what I said before, a couple of people brought up good points which didn’t occur to me last night. I can see how this product would work well as a base for creating custom colours. If you want to “pop the grain” but don’t want to use a product outside of the Minwax line, then this would work well there too. There’s less chance of compatibility problems when you use, for example, Minwax natural stain in combination with Minwax polyurethane.

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#13 posted 06-12-2013 02:14 PM

Natural stain is for people that just have to stain things. Seems like no one can appreciate wood for woods sake.

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#14 posted 06-12-2013 03:17 PM

LakeLover – Amen!

-- When I was a kid I wanted to be older . . . . . this CRAP is not what I expected ! RIP 09/08/2018

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#15 posted 06-12-2013 03:29 PM

I believe the point is to seal the wood surface on pine, so that when you apply stain over it, it absorbs more uniformly and give less “blotching” and less drastic color variation across the variations in the grain….. which are always problems when staining pine.

I’ve used the Minwax natural for this purpose, but was not at all happy with the results. The stain was still blotchy.

General Finishes Natural, however, does work very well for this purpose and I highly recommend it. IIUC, it is a dilute water based urethane (similar to diluted Minwax Polycrylic)

That’s been my experience.

-- I yam what I yam and that's all what I yam

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