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Matt Donley

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334 days ago

Topic tags/keywords: sketchup sketchup 2013

Sketchup 2013 was just recently announced! I put together a post that has everything you need to know about Sketchup 2013. It has information on all the new upgrades, pricing, and also takes a look at the new license agreement. Something you’ll want to take a look at if you currently use the free version of Sketchup for commercial work.

Trimble changed the name of the free version to be officially called “Sketchup Make”. This is to avoid confusion with Sketchup Pro. (How many times have you had to explain to someone that Sketchup is a fully featured program, not just a trial of Sketchup Pro?) This should make it sound more like a complete program.

Many new features in Sketchup Pro (specifically Layout). Also, they introduced the “Extensions warehouse”. Get all your plugins in one place. Find out all about it at http://www.mastersketchup.com/sketchup2013/

-- I create Sketchup Tips, Tricks, & Tutorials at http://www.Mastersketchup.com


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tomakazi

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#1 posted 331 days ago

thanks for posting

-- I didn't go to college, I was too busy learning stuff - Ted Nugent

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WillAdams

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#2 posted 331 days ago

Anyone else put-off by the no-commercial use clause?

What happens if I make something and then sell it in a yard sale (say I need to move or my wife bought a replacement)? Am I guilty of a thought-crime?

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REO

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#3 posted 330 days ago

what does license for the commercial version cost?

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rrww

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#4 posted 330 days ago

Pro is $590 if your new $95 to upgrade

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Jorge G.

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#5 posted 330 days ago

Some one posted in Matt’s site that it looked like a move towards getting rid of the free version. I have to agree with that, seems to me they want to reach into my pocket for designing something with SU and then selling what I built from that design.

Seems to me they have not thought things through, what use is SU, if not for designing things? It is certainly not something you download to use for play.

Before SU I used to do fine with pencil and paper, I might just have to go back. Then again, I am in Mexico, let them come here and sue me….LOL.

-- "It is what you do with what you know that matters" - James Krenov

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Matt Donley

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#6 posted 330 days ago

It is a bummer that they won’t allow commercial use for the free version any more. But I guess you can’t really blame them. They’re a business, and they want to make money.

-- I create Sketchup Tips, Tricks, & Tutorials at http://www.Mastersketchup.com

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Matt Przybylski

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#7 posted 330 days ago

The way I read it is that you can’t make money from the output of the program itself, as in selling models or plans made in the program or extensions you write (questionable on that one since that’s written in Ruby), not the projects you make from your own designs.

-- Matt, Illinois, http://www.reintroducing.com

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#8 posted 330 days ago

By the way Matt, great site, awesome resource. Keep up the good work, I subscribed to the newsletter.

-- Matt, Illinois, http://www.reintroducing.com

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#9 posted 330 days ago

I don’t see how they could possibly keep you from using the free version to make models that you use to build projects so long as you aren’t selling the model itself.

As far as the extensions go, I too wonder how they could keep people from selling them. It’s not like the coding is proprietary.

-- -=Pride is not a sin=-

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PurpLev

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#10 posted 330 days ago

gotta love the legal wording:

Just like most companies, we’re not legally permitted to interpret our terms of use

-- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

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Underdog

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#11 posted 330 days ago

Not permitted to interpret their terms of use? Then what good is it?

Is that legalese for “mealymouthed”?

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lepelerin

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#12 posted 330 days ago

and after that they wonder why people use pirated software :)

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HillbillyShooter

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#13 posted 329 days ago

Thanks for the post.

-- John C. -- "Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples' liberty's teeth." George Washington

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#14 posted 329 days ago

I don’t see how they could possibly keep you from using the free version to make models that you use to build projects so long as you aren’t selling the model itself.

Neither do I, but if you are in the business of making and selling design furniture, you might find that in some cases the client does not want you to make the piece but wants your design and it is willing to pay for it. In this case I would be “forced” to pay for the pro version. I don’t see how they can enforce this clause, but nevertheless it is there.

I think this is a dumb move, for much less than $595 I can get a very good CAD program like Design CAD 3D Max which is only $100. Sure, I would have to learn how to use it, but then I know I won’t be jerked around in the future. I will stick with SU 8 as long as I can, and when the time comes for getting another program I will most likely be getting something else.

-- "It is what you do with what you know that matters" - James Krenov

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Matt Donley

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#15 posted 329 days ago

Just a heads up guys, as @James101 suggested, if you have an existing version of Sketchup (Sketchup 8), you can still use it for commercial use. It’s just the new version that this new license applies to.

Also, the wording is pretty clear that if you’re a “for profit” business, you can’t use the free Sketchup Make software. Read:

If you are a for-profit organization of any kind, or an employee of a for-profit organization using the Software or Services in that capacity, you are engaged in commercial activity; therefore, in order to use the Software and Services, you must purchase a SketchUp Pro license.

Extracted from http://sketchup.com/license/b/sketchup-make

Definitely sucks. But it is a great tool that saves you time, money, and wins you more jobs. So it can be justified. It provides value.

PS – @Matt Przybylski, Thanks for the compliments!!!!!

-- I create Sketchup Tips, Tricks, & Tutorials at http://www.Mastersketchup.com

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