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UpstateNYdude

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461 days ago

Topic tags/keywords: question planer jointer

Ok so I can’t make up my mind what would be more beneficial at the moment I need dust collection so I’ve picked out the 2hp Grizzly Cyclone DC, but my dilemma is in deciding to go with the 15” spiral head thickness planer or the 8” spiral head parallel bed jointer. I will be able to order whatever one I don’t get this year next year but don’t know what to pick for immediate needs.

I only have a budget of $3000 (could be more but I have to build a shed to get all my other s* out of my garage and then heat, wire, and put up walls in the garage so I don’t cover my wife’s new car in dust) and need to decide soon.

I’m hoping for a 20% off coupon in the WWJ mag in June then I can spend the extra $500 and get all three but I won’t get that lucky or it won’t cover the tools I need lol.

I know the thickness planer can be used like a joiner but I have a lot of bowed 4×4 material at the moment and the jointer would be nicer for that, but I just can’t decide AHHHHHHH!!!!

-- Nick, “Discovering the truth about ourselves is a lifetime's work, but it's worth the effort.” ― Fred Rogers, Be My Neighbor


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pmayer

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#1 posted 461 days ago

You will get a split of opinions on this so you will just have to make the best call for your woodworking style and process. I work with predominately rough lumber, so I use the heck out of both of these machines. What I would do is is buy the jointer, and see if I could scrape together an extra $150 and buy a used lunchbox planer that could get me by for a year while I save for the stationary machine. You should be able to get all of your money back on the planer when you buy the new one.

-- PaulMayer, http://www.vernswoodgoods.com

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Shawn Masterson

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#2 posted 461 days ago

put the car in the driveway, and save the money from the wall. Then you can have all 3 and more room for other machines. I would get this DC and go with the Thien separator. unless you are using a large drum sander the cyclone is over kill, and the fill really fast with a planer. I have an Ebay cyclone and wish I would have saved the money. When they overfill the filter gets packed with shavings and it is a mess to clean out. that would save $500 right off the bat and the Thien unit would give you more capacity. I have a pre-separator on mine just for more capacity. this planer is $1745, and this jointer is $1400. That comes to $3600. just my opinion I have straight knives and they work great, and you could go with straight knives and save $1000. have fun and make some dust.

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knotscott

5422 posts in 2007 days


#3 posted 461 days ago

I’d skip the spiral head for now and buy the DC, jointer AND the planer. A jointer and planer are best when used together in tandem….they’re not really a one or the other tool. IMHO, a very good planer AND a very good jointer are better than an excellent jointer all by itself.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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whitebeast88

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#4 posted 461 days ago

i agree with knotscott.i recently bought a jointer and just learned to use it and now i don’t know what i ever did without one.after i joint it i run it through the planer and ts.you can make a nice board.imho.

-- Marty.Athens,AL

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Cole Tallerman

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#5 posted 461 days ago

I think even with a spiral head, you still need to do sanding. Therefore, it may only save you a bit of sanding. My planer and 12” jointer are both strait blade with 2 knife cutterheads. The only reason I could use a spiral head would be for really tricky grain patterns. Otherwise, I think strait blade is fine.

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UpstateNYdude

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#6 posted 461 days ago

The spiral cutter head isn’t just for the smoothness of the board its the fact that I don’t have to set blades and I get 4 times the use and they are all carbide and it costs more to add that on later and what am I going to do with the 3 blade assembly after I remove it?

The DC I have been debating on wether to just get the one suggested and do a baffle which the Thien seems to work better and can fill up to 75% before losing any efficiency.

Also, I can’t skip the wall my wife thinks I’ll get her car covered in dust or hit it with something (I tried to tell her that was why I was buying a DC).

I appreciate all of your input everyone, I have a few more things to consider now thanks for moving me away from the Cyclone Knot and over to a Thien.

-- Nick, “Discovering the truth about ourselves is a lifetime's work, but it's worth the effort.” ― Fred Rogers, Be My Neighbor

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Shawn Masterson

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#7 posted 460 days ago

The reason I suggested skipping the wall was if the car stayed out of the shop it would be needed.

car outside =more room inside

haha.

I guess I am lucky my 26×30 garage is “dads space”. It is the only space that I have absolute power over.

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UpstateNYdude

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#8 posted 460 days ago

Yeah my wife would never let that happen in the winters up here and I don’t blame her I could care less about cleaning my car off but she gets cold easy and has to bring my kid to daycare in the morning so…yeah I lose half a bay my 2 car is 24×30 so losing a 12×18’ section sucks but it makes her happy so as they say Happy wife happy life lol.

-- Nick, “Discovering the truth about ourselves is a lifetime's work, but it's worth the effort.” ― Fred Rogers, Be My Neighbor

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UpstateNYdude

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#9 posted 460 days ago

Ok so I have a chance to buy a Jet DC 1100 VX for $250 the guy says it has only been used for like 5 hours and comes with a couple hoses and clamps should I go for this over the 2HP one from grizzly I’m losing like 600cfm and a .5hp for only like $200 more not sure what to do.

-- Nick, “Discovering the truth about ourselves is a lifetime's work, but it's worth the effort.” ― Fred Rogers, Be My Neighbor

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knotscott

5422 posts in 2007 days


#10 posted 460 days ago

The Jet is a decent deal…the cannister is worth about half the asking price. The Griz will run $494 shipped, so it’s nearly twice as much, but you get a 12-3/4” impeller vs 11”....combine that with 33% more HP, and that’s where the 600 CFM difference in airflow comes from, so the Griz definitely has the basics covered bettered. You also get a warranty with the Griz. Whether or not it’s worth the premium is up to you.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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Straightbowed

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#11 posted 460 days ago

at least go spiral on the planer the jointer is easy to set knives in but the planer can be a pain in the arse my jointer knives in my G409 are still cutting great and I have jointed a load of wood but the planer seems to eat up knives Im goin with carbide tipped next set I buy

-- Stevo, work in tha city woodshop in the country

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BBF

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#12 posted 460 days ago

I agree with Steve about the straight knives on the jointer and spiral head on the planer with that and the Griz DC your just over $3300. If you are using / are going to use a drum sander then you will want the extra CFM.

-- I've never been disappointed buying quality but I have been disappointed buying good enough.

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