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Forum topic by Brent Smith posted 05-22-2013 03:18 AM 1478 views 0 times favorited 30 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Brent Smith

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05-22-2013 03:18 AM

Topic tags/keywords: bandsaw planer drill press jointer sander tablesaw

I’ve been researching stationary power tools for 6 months now. My needs are table saw, jointer, planer, bandsaw, dust collecting system, drill press, sanders ect., an entire shop. I have also spent the past 6 months selling off my old shop tools most of which were 15-20 year old delta, most were undersized for my new plans of building furniture as a side business. I have gone through the Grizzly catalog and selected models to meet all my needs to the tune of $14,000. Grizzly seems to be pretty good quality, they do seem to have quite a lot of shipping damage. Every time I read a review or post of someone bashing their tools it would seem the real problem is with the person and not the tool maker. I would think that every tool maker has problems from time to time, after all these tools are made by people, or robots that in turn are made by people. I personally have never owned or used Grizzly tools and I’m just a bit unsure about pulling the 14K trigger. Anything anyone can add that is of real value to my thought process would be greatly appreciated. If your experience with Grizzly has been poor please be honest with me and go into detail as to how Grizzly could have been better. Thank you in advance for any and all of your help.

-- Brent, Glen Arbor Michigan


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MT_Stringer

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#1 posted 05-22-2013 03:27 AM

I have their 14 inch G0555LX Bandsaw and the 1023RLW Table Saw with router table extension wing. I used both of them off and on all day today. Just another day in paradise (being retired, that is). Unfortunately, I don’t have any complaints about Grizzly. :-)

-- Handcrafted by Mike Henderson - Channelview, Texas

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cabmaker

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#2 posted 05-22-2013 03:33 AM

Brent, I have owned three 3hp shapers with their badged feeders. I still have two of them and have no complaints at all.
No real complaints however.

I have had their 19 inch bandsaw. It was just ok. I sold it. When your used to something heavier, well you know the story, but no real complaints on it.

I also had a grizz. 15 inch planer which was their early 2hp version and it was a real workhorse for a light planer.

All in all I dont think you’ll be disappointed, oh and I have had two of their 2hp dust collectors and they performed flawlessly.

And for your last question, I don’t believe they could be better in their price class in fact I believe grizz to be the best thing going at their price point.

Wish you well with your decision. JB

Oh did I mention I have the long bed 8 inch spiral head jointer, no complaints there either.

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kdc68

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#3 posted 05-22-2013 03:38 AM

I own a table saw, jointer, bandsaw, and an air filtration unit. All have performed good. No major issues. Any minor hiccups were quickly resolved through their Customer Service…Good bang for the buck with excellent customer service..IMO

-- Measure "at least" twice and cut once

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RonInOhio

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#4 posted 05-22-2013 03:46 AM

Makes it easier to read if you put some space between some of your sentences.

But in reply. I believe as you say, there are problems (lemons) with every brand.

And I agree , it does seem that often the bad reviews are from people who don’t know
what they are doing ,or have unreasonable expectations for a particular price point.

Grizzly stands behind their products. Sometimes quality control is lacking on the manufactors
end . Mostly I hear good things about Grizzly products.

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copcarcollector

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#5 posted 05-22-2013 04:00 AM

I have several Grizzly machines (table saw, DC, jointer, band saw, lathe) – I have light use on them all so I can’t comment on them long term yet. But for what I have done with them, I have no complaints. My jointer was received damaged, Grizzly took care of it in about 1 week. My lathe arrived with the tailstock pieces fused together, Grizzly sent parts right away.

Maybe get one or two machines instead of them all at once and see what you think… ?

Any makers tools are subject to damage in transit, the way the freight companies do things is downright scary sometimes! I have seen the most damage where I work with FedEx Freight, so if I were to order anything I would specify another carrier. In fact I just ordered a (non Grizzly) drum sander and told them no FedEx Freight) I have had better luck with UPS Freight, and really good service and no problems with ABF. Just my 2 cents there on shipping companies and damage!

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unbob

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#6 posted 05-22-2013 04:00 AM

I was faced with the same problem.
Then looked at used equipment, I had to do some repairs, new bearings ect.
14 and 18” table saws
8” and 12” jointers
18 and 24” band saws
heavy shaper with alot of cutters and power feed
16” and 24” planers
Hand tools of all sorts.
Just under $6000!

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Loren

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#7 posted 05-22-2013 04:10 AM

I don’t always mention this – but I sometimes build
furniture and take money for it. I’ve done this
for over a decade.

I don’t see the upside to buying common general
light industrial woodworking equipment NEW if
your intention is to earn money as a furniture maker.

If you look around at real pro furniture shops,
many are using European machinery. The reason
is the machine features and accessories are different from
what Asian import companies like Grizzly offer.

Unless there’s a job with a deposit check cashed
in the pipeline that is going to pay for a new,
specialized machine that will be paid for by that
job, I buy used.

-- http://lawoodworking.com

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James

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#8 posted 05-22-2013 04:29 AM

If I had 14k for new tools, I would be looking at Hammer, Felder and Laguna!

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lanwater

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#9 posted 05-22-2013 04:47 AM

should that wheel pass quality control? No, the crack is visible from a distance.
That was the first thing I saw while putting on the blade.
So I waited for 2 more weeks before I could use my band saw.

Did it happen during shipping? No, it was painted over; there was paint in the crack.

Would I buy again? Maybe, customer service was good.

-- Abbas, Castro Valley, CA

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redryder

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#10 posted 05-22-2013 05:07 AM

If your experience with Grizzly has been poor please be honest with me and go into detail as to how Grizzly could have been better.

You seem intent on bashing the Grizzly company for some reason. There are lots of wood working companies to find negatives about. What is it about Grizzly that you want the people on this form to hate?? I personally own a Grizzly band saw, table saw and drill press. Sorry I can’t help you with any ”poor experiences”.................

-- mike...............

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a1Jim

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#11 posted 05-22-2013 05:37 AM

I own 5 Grizzly pieces of equipment that have cost around the $8k mark not as much as what your thinking of spending.I would strongly recommend their company. Sure there higher end machines out there but you get a lot of bang for your buck with Grizzly products . If in doubt buy one piece of equipment and see what you think,then buy the rest after your test purchase if your happy with you first piece of equipment.

-- http://artisticwoodstudio.com Custom furniture

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kepy

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#12 posted 05-22-2013 10:44 AM

My former tool repair shop had bad things to say about Grizzly motors as said it depended on where they were made, some being ok but others being so loosely wound that they wouldn’t last.
I found their customer service to be non-existent. I personally would not buy from them again.

-- Kepy

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huff

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#13 posted 05-22-2013 12:25 PM

Brent,

One good thing if you bought only Grizzly products with your $14,000; you won’t have to worry how they compare to others and you will only need to remember one phone # if you have a problem. :)

But to help with your confusion to whether you should invest all your money in only one line of tools, here’s my experience with Grizzly products. I’ve owned Powermatic, Delta, Delta/Rockwell, MinniMax, ProCut, Craftsman, Grizzly and a few imported brands I can’t even remember the name of the manufacturers. (These were all stationary tools).

There was only one tool that ended up in the corner collecting dust because I got tired of adjusting and/or replacing broken parts. The quality of that machine was terrible and I finally sold it for a couple dollars to another woodworker and I’m sure if you ask him, he loves it. (but that would be more because of the price he paid, not the quality).

Yes, it was a Grizzly, but that was years ago and I’m sure they’ve improved that particular piece of equipment.

Did I form an opionion about Grizzly? Sure did!

Does that make Grizzly a poor company or a poor line of tools? Nope! Not at all.

Ask a 100 people that owns or have owned Grizzly products and you will find a mixture of attitudes, Just like any other line of tools. Some will love them, others will take them with a grain of salt and some will hate them.

Opinions are like belly-buttons, everyone has one and I guess it will depend on who’s you like the most.

Good luck with your purchase and your new business.

-- John @ http://www.thehuffordfurnituregroup.com

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Straightbowed

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#14 posted 05-22-2013 01:36 PM

when you buy a woodworking machine you have to set it up RIGHT if you don’t set it up right, it will not perform right and will give problems also if you do PM’s your tools will last, a good woodworker can take any machine and make it work give a bad woodworker great tools and he still can’t square a borad,grizzly tools are lower priced yes but they don’t have three middle men raising prices, I bought a 1984 G1018 as my first jointer it worked great but the tables were worn but just to get a board halfway straight was a very exciting thing for me but I sold it cause I didn’t want to take rhem off and have a machine shop and pay to have them resurfaced also make sure you get all spiral cutterheads wish I would have but good luck in your future purchase

-- Stevo, work in tha city woodshop in the country

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wiswood2

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#15 posted 05-22-2013 02:27 PM

I have 15 of their major tools and no major problem if I need a new tool, it will be grizzly.
Chuck

-- Chuck, wiswood2 www.wisconsinwoodchuck.com

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