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warden4u

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436 days ago

I’M NEW AT WOODWORK. I WANT TO BUY A DRUM SANDER? DO YOU HAVE A DRUM SANDER? IF SO TELL ME WHAT KIND IT IS AND HOW DOES IT WORK ON SANDING RAW MATERIAL? I’M OPEN TO ANY SUGGESTION. I NEED HELP NOT TO BUY THE WRONG ONE.
G0458 18” 1-1/2 HP Single-Phase Open End Drum Sander or G1079R 16” Drum Sander w/ Rubber Conveyor what is your suggestion?

-- Charles, Kiefer, Oklahoma, http://www.woodworker.com


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Fred Hargis

1655 posts in 1097 days


#1 posted 436 days ago

I have one, and it’s definitely earned it’s keep in my shop. Mine is a Delta 18/36, one of the first ones and I’ve had it about 12 years. But with your opening statement about being “new to woodwork”, I’m wondering if you have the more often used tools in your shop (?). The table saw, maybe jointer and planer, bandsaw, several others will get more use than the drum sander. They work very well on “raw wood” (unfinished?), but they work very slowly. You can’t hog off material, and you (IMHO) you need a DC to use one, they generate mountains of very fiuns dust. They are not finish sanding machines, you will likely have scratches that need to be removed with an ROS or such, As for make, were I to buy one today it would be a Jet (previously Performaxx) or maybe the Supermax model.

-- I long for the days when Coke was a cola, and a joint was a bad place to be (Merle Haggard)

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Paul

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#2 posted 436 days ago

I agree with Fred, I could not work without it but it does have many limitations as he says. Mine is the Delta and it is a ‘love/hate/ relationship. I would rate it as being just ok.

Paul

-- If you say 'It's good enough', it probably isn't.

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agallant

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#3 posted 436 days ago

I only need three tools. Tablesaw, Router, and Drum Sander. I have the Jet 16-32. They take some time to setup properly so it sands evenly and wrapping the drum is a bit of an art. With that said it is one of the most important tools I have in my shop.

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crank49

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#4 posted 436 days ago

Unless you meant to be yelling, turn off the CAPS LOCK.

I, too, wonder what you have as a background for the sander.
What other equipment do you have?
What kind of working space do you have?
What kind of dust collection do you have?
What type of work do you plan to do with it?

These are not just being nosy, but are relevant to the advise we could give.

-- Michael :-{| “If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed.” ― A H

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skipj

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#5 posted 436 days ago

I agree with Fred. I have the supermax and love it. I’m into my 6th kitchen remodle in as many months.
All my material is bought in the rough meaning it goes to the table saw,jointer. planer and sander
in that order.

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JamesT

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#6 posted 436 days ago

wardun4u,
If you consider a Delta 18-36, Models 34-250 – 34-260X you should be aware there are two plastic miter gears used for table elevation that are no longer available, (even for the newer 34-260X). If one of the teeth should chip or get damaged there is no replacement parts available from any delta parts supplier, and Delta considers the parts “obsolete”.
I don’t know anything about the Grizzly. Recommend you also look at the Jet or Performax.

-- Jim from Doniphan

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bannerpond1

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#7 posted 436 days ago

I have the Jet 16-32 drum sander. It is a real pain to change the roll due to the cramped space where you have to blindly push the end of the paper strip. If you don’t get it tight enough, the paper will overlap and produce burn marks.

As for “raw material,” if you use the drum sander on finished wood, you will gum up the paper and make it unuseable for the next job.

Still, I use the drum sander a lot, but always use the ROS afterward, because even 150 paper on the drum makes scratch marks. You will have to use the ROS or it’ll look really bad under a finish.

-- --Dale Page

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Loren

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#8 posted 436 days ago

I’d recommend a closed-end sander. Less fussy
to work with.

There are a lot of used drum sanders on the secondhand
market because people buy them and get frustrated
or otherwise stop using them.

-- http://lawoodworking.com

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Sergio

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#9 posted 436 days ago

You are new to WW and already know that you need a drum sander? What kind of projects do you intend to do?

-- - Greetings from Brazil - --

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Fred Hargis

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#10 posted 436 days ago

Jim, your point is valid about the gears, but there is a workaround. This gear can be modified to work as a replacement…I found this info on another forum, but it was posted originally over at SMC (I don’t visit that forum) Here's the link to the discussion. Please don’t consider this as me pimping for the Delta sander….but it might be useful to someone who broke that gear.

-- I long for the days when Coke was a cola, and a joint was a bad place to be (Merle Haggard)

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moke

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#11 posted 436 days ago

Warden..
I too have a supermax…it is a great tool, well worth every penny. It is designed by the same guys that designed the Jet, only 20 years later, they went back and corrected there original complaints with the original performax. Having said that, I agree with everything that has been said about why you want a drumsander?
If you have all the “staples” for tools and have the money I say, “WTH” but if this is a purchase ahead of router tables with lifts, a good TS, dp….etc…I would say let this be one of your last accquisitions.
Also be aware, a Drum Sander (DS) is not a replacement for a planer. They compliment each other, not replace…
IMHO, keep in mind that you do not want a DS that the table goes up and down on, as opposed to the sanding head. I can’t remember, but I thought the grizzly open end units raised the table.
Good Luck,
Mike

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warden4u

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#12 posted 435 days ago

I DONT LIKE SANDING ALL WOOD TO GET STARTED ON WHATEVER I CHOOSE TO DO. I HAVE MADE OTHER PRODUCTS BIRDHOUSES, PLANTERS, CABINETS, AND BEDS. BUNK BEDS, DESK. SHELVES. I WANTED TO GET A JUMP ON THE SANDIND BEFORE THE FINAL TIME. SO I WANTED TO BUY DRUM SANDER TO HELP GET WOOD BE CLOSER TO FINISH IN STEAD SAND BY HAND. WARDEN4U
I HAVE 20’ GRIZZLY PLANER, 17 ’ GRIZZLY BANDSAW CRAFTSMAN 10” TABLESAW, PALM SANDE,R DRILLPRESS DUST COLLECTOR.

-- Charles, Kiefer, Oklahoma, http://www.woodworker.com

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DrDirt

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#13 posted 435 days ago

Check out Stumpy Nubs site – and there are videos and ultimatly a set of plans to build one.

-- "If we did all the things we are capable of doing, we would literally astonish ourselves." Edison

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Fred Hargis

1655 posts in 1097 days


#14 posted 435 days ago

I doubt any of us can say we “like” sanding either, but a good ROS is going to be more useful…IMHO, of course.

-- I long for the days when Coke was a cola, and a joint was a bad place to be (Merle Haggard)

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JamesT

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#15 posted 435 days ago

Fred,
I started the thread you’re referring too. My whole point was that you should not have to find a gear that works after it’s modified. Delta still sales this sander (34-260X) and some parts are not available. That’s completely inexcusable. IMHO

-- Jim from Doniphan

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