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Forum topic by Brent Smith posted 05-21-2013 03:22 AM 1040 views 0 times favorited 8 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Brent Smith

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05-21-2013 03:22 AM

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Looking into building furniture as a side business and I’m researching stain and finish options… I have used minwax stain and polyurethane topcoat for years… I have used a few powdered/alcohol stain/dye’s in the past as well… I would use a HVLP spray gun for the clear and would really like to take the finish to the professional level… any advise on proven combinations that you have used and really liked would be greately appreciated…

-- Brent, Glen Arbor Michigan


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Louis Petrolia

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#1 posted 05-21-2013 03:39 PM

Hi Brent
I am new with Lj and still learning all the interesting things to understand and to meet new people and try to help out any way that I can.

After retiring approx. 12 years ago, I established a wood refinishing and antique restoration business. Without any advise from other finishers who were into catalyst laquer, I decided to go waterbase and aniline dye powder. Everything I learned was trial and error and just love the refinishing.

I also have an Apollo turbine system. I do not spray on the mixed dye only. I prefer to mix diluted poly with my preferred dye. Toner method which works on any wood. As long as you have a good set up on your system and the portions of dye to the poly is right. I prefer a number of feathering to obtain the color that suits me.

Should you have some questions, I hope that I may be able to help out in some way.

Louis “shilothree”

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#2 posted 05-21-2013 05:36 PM

Thank you Louis for taking the time to share… Does your business have a website or FB profile…

-- Brent, Glen Arbor Michigan

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Louis Petrolia

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#3 posted 05-21-2013 11:09 PM

Thanks Brent

I no longer have my business. I still continue to finish all of my projects. I belong to a woodworkers club in North Bay. Teach some members the art of spraying. Had a couple of my latest night tables (photos) on Lj site as requested by stefang.

Loouis

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Earlextech

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#4 posted 05-22-2013 12:40 PM

I’m with Louis on this. Water borne is the way to go. Keep it simple, don’t use different chemicals from different companies, if posssible. If you’re looking for easy to get then try General Finishes at any Woodcraft/Rockler store, if you want the best customer service and a great product try Aquacoat.com

I spray my stains because I find it easy to spray on heavy and wipe off the excess. This leads to an even coat every time. Also, use Seal Coat as your sealer, dewaxed, it will never cause a problem with another finish.

-- Sam Hamory - The project is never finished until its "Finished"!

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#5 posted 05-24-2013 12:36 AM

Thank you gentlemen I really appreciate your input and willingness to help…

-- Brent, Glen Arbor Michigan

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#6 posted 05-24-2013 01:24 AM

General Finishes.
I use their waterbased Lacquer and all their water based stains with GREAT results and customer satisfaction…
Safe, low maintenance, and easy to apply.
I use HVLP, with all their finishes and it’s become our shop trademark.

props to the Seal Coat!

-- steve/USA

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#7 posted 05-24-2013 04:00 AM

Earlextech
Hi Sam
Thank you for agreeing with my comment to Brent. However, I do not spray on dye only, especially on Cherry,pine, etc. due to heavy blothing. The only way to avoid blotching is to mix dye with diluted clear water based finish as a toner or shading. Making sure that you feather the spraying to obtain the color you hope for. Then last coat may be used full strength. I have done this for 12 years, and still continue this method. Does take practice to control the color. But with no blotching whatsoever. The P.S.I on the Apollo system must be sprayed at the 10 P.S.I. rather than the 6 P.S.I. Can be feathered much finer.

Louis “shilothree”

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Finisherman

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#8 posted 05-25-2013 06:48 PM

I really like the Mohawk/Behlen line of finishing products. These products can be counted on to give you professional looking results each and every time, at least in my experience. I’m not a convert to the waterborne products, yet, but I understand that they’re getting better and better. I guess that I’ll have to take the plunge into waterborne products sooner or later. Meanwhile, Mohawk makes a nitrocellulose lacquer which sprays like a dream through an HVLP system. Their dye stains give excellent clarity and consistant colour Their aerosol toners and clear lacquers likewise give excellent results on small projects. I could go on, but I think that you probably get the idea.

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