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Forum topic by hardmorningwood posted 05-19-2013 07:58 AM 2657 views 0 times favorited 19 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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hardmorningwood

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05-19-2013 07:58 AM

Topic tags/keywords: ridgid 4512 shop fox w1677 table saw cabinet saw

Hey Everyone,
I have the opportunity to get a Shop Fox W1677 that is used, it has a broken arbor pulley but the part is only $16, the guy who is selling it wants $300 for it, hes a friend of mine who is a big professional cabinet maker. I already bought a Shop Fox 8” jointer off him for $400 and it works great. I currently have a Ridgid 4512 which is a great saw, but the fence is garbage, and wont hold a perfect 90 no matter how many times you adjust it. Do you think its a better idea to get the Shop fox and repair it (easy repair), or buy a better fence system for my Ridgid 4512? Space is an issue as my shop is basically a one car garage, electric is not an issue I already run the Ridgid on 220v.


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#1 posted 05-19-2013 11:14 AM

No contest, and a no brainer IMO. The Shop Fox 1677 is the same as the former Grizzly G1023SL…it’s in an entirely different league than the R4512. The motor and fence are worth more than $300. Space requirements are about the same. You could probably sell your R4512 for close to the price of the W1677, and end up with a much more powerful and substantial saw. For $316, I’d grab it yesterday!

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#2 posted 05-19-2013 12:09 PM

+1 Knotscott….
No contest, and a no brainer IMO. The Shop Fox 1677 is the same as the former Grizzly G1023SL…it’s in an entirely different league than the R4512. The motor and fence are worth more than $300. Space requirements are about the same. You could probably sell your R4512 for close to the price of the W1677, and end up with a much more powerful and substantial saw. For $316, I’d grab it yesterday!

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#3 posted 05-19-2013 04:49 PM

+2. If I had the opportunity to buy a saw like that for $300 and already had 220 available, it would be posted as a gloat, not a question.

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#4 posted 05-19-2013 05:08 PM

a 10”left tilt 3 hp cabinet saw for $316, plus the labor to fix the arbor, is still a great deal. as KS indicated, net of the sale of the 4512, it’s almost a wash.

what’s the condition of the 1677? hopefully, if used in a commercial environment, it hasn’t been beaten to death.

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#5 posted 05-19-2013 07:52 PM

the rigid is junk compared to the shop fox, no BRAINER on this, SHOP FOX NO CONTEST

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#6 posted 05-19-2013 08:26 PM

I also would be all over the shopfox. I do have to wonder #1 what on earth were they doing to break the arbor pulley?? #2 is there any damage to the arbor shaft?? #3 Why is he selling it and not fixing it himself???
If all checks out get it. It just sound a little suspect to me. there may be a mess inside.

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#7 posted 05-20-2013 01:22 PM

He also has a 15” Shop Fox planer I want to get off him, he wants $600 for that though. I pretty much knew the answer I just wanted confirmation and some other perspectives, pointers, and warnings. picking it up today with my friend, ill post some pics if anyone wants to see them.. I could use some pointers on setting up my shop, considering its a one car garage. Ive managed pretty well so far, but I had to move my 4512 around quite often with the current set up, something im hoping to avoid having to do with the ShopFox. I have no dust collection, just washing up bowls and a leaf blower, which sucks because I generate ALOT of sawdust.

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#8 posted 05-20-2013 01:36 PM

Try using the Grizzly Workshop Planner. It’s a useful tool for planning layouts, space and workflow.

-- "Good judgement is the result of experience. A lot of experience is the result of poor judgement."

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#9 posted 05-20-2013 08:53 PM

+1 on the Grizzly Workshop Planner.

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#10 posted 05-21-2013 12:30 PM

Picked up my saw yesterday, I have to wait till Thursday for the new arbor to come in, then im going to clean and tune her up! Didn’t come with the insert for the blade so I guess ill be making one.

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#11 posted 05-21-2013 01:40 PM

4512 I sold

table for the shop fox.

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#12 posted 05-21-2013 01:53 PM

congrats on the TS. does the pic of the jointer mean we got two toys? FWIW, i’d buy one new insert from grizzly to act as a template for DIY ZCIs. it would make fabricating ZCIs a little easier.

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#13 posted 05-21-2013 02:14 PM

I got the jointer for $400, I built some really nice shelves for a friends pantry, and used some of the proceeds to get it, im glad I did. Arent all the 10” inserts a standard size? I was going to go to a display model table saw at lowes and trace out the insert on a piece of plywood.

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#14 posted 05-21-2013 03:01 PM

Congrats on the purchase.

Inserts will vary by manufacturer and model. You will need to get one for your specific model.

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#15 posted 05-21-2013 04:24 PM

16.00 is not bad for the new pulley, but u probably could have just ran 2 belts and would have never known a difference. We run 2 belts on our grizzly ts that I installed a new leeson motor in, I cannot tell the difference.

Great score on the ts.

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