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Forum topic by donaldpmoran posted 05-19-2013 12:58 AM 855 views 0 times favorited 11 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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donaldpmoran

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05-19-2013 12:58 AM

During my daily craigslist browsing I came across this saw. I have seen them before but never in this good of condition. I can not find any info on it. Is anyone familiar with it? Thanks in advance.

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/tls/3805301985.html

-- Imperfections make it unique!


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chrisstef

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#1 posted 05-19-2013 01:02 AM

I think they called them Artisans saws. Model # eludes me though.

-- "there aren’t many hand tools as awe-inspiring as the #8 jointer. I mean, it just reeks of cast iron heft and hubris" - Smitty

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#2 posted 05-19-2013 01:33 AM

Among the better contractor saws. Good fence.
Strong motor. Made in Taiwan.

Plenty of 3hp cabinet saws in LA in that price range
though.

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donaldpmoran

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#3 posted 05-19-2013 01:37 AM

I would love a cabinet saw right now but I can not do 220. I live in military housing and they wont let me convert it.

-- Imperfections make it unique!

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#4 posted 05-19-2013 02:12 AM

It’s the Powermatic PM64”S”. It’s essentially a downgraded PM64”A”...has a the old Jet Microglide fence instead of the Accurence…. that wasn’t much of a hit on the Jet Supersaw, and it has steel wings…..it may have a smaller motor too, but I’m not certain. The basic guts of both are pretty typical older style Taiwanese contractor saws with an outboard motor, connecting rod arbor carriage, and no riving knife…..very similar to the Woodtek, Griz G0444, Bridgewood, and others, but sports a Powermatic logo. IMO, the PM64a is just about worth $450 used in nice shape…..the PM64s is not. It’s a “Powermatic” only by nameplate association, not construction or features, so whatever one of those other similar saws would be worth with steel wings and middle of the road fence, is about what the PM64s is worth IMHO…maybe $300-$350.

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donaldpmoran

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#5 posted 05-19-2013 02:14 AM

Thanks knotscott!

-- Imperfections make it unique!

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#6 posted 05-19-2013 04:47 AM

I believe they came with a 1 1/2 hp motor and splitters are hard to locate that will work

-- Norman

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toolie

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#7 posted 05-19-2013 05:18 PM

I would love a cabinet saw right now but I can not do 220

sure you can:

http://www.quick220.com/220_volt.htm

and i’d echo that the linked p-matic isn’t worth the asking price. one could get a new 4512 for less than that with a little effort.

-- there's a solution to every problem.......you just have to be willing to find it.

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EEngineer

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#8 posted 05-20-2013 03:28 AM

Oh boy! This is another variation of things that have been suggested here before. By connecting to two different outlets, they are working off of outlets wired to the two different 120V mains that come into most houses in the US to get a full 240V.

Meets UL Standard 1012

I have to see a specific citing in the 2012 UL Standard to believe that. I looked this up before and I believe that the NEC up to 2011 specifically prohibits this.

Regardless, it is not a good idea! Wire a 240V outlet through ganged circuit breakers and leave this product to the snake oil dealers!

-- "Find out what you cannot do and then go do it!"

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toolie

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#9 posted 05-20-2013 04:28 PM

FWIW, that “snake oil” product was reviewed in shopnotes magazine as a potentially helpful product. can any specifics be cited that would evidence it’s alleged inadequacy?

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Brohymn62

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#10 posted 05-21-2013 10:04 PM

I thought I was the only LA guy doing “daily” craigslist tool broswings ;)

FYI I’ve seen better saws for that price.

-- Chris G. ; Los Angeles, CA

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Fresch

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#11 posted 05-22-2013 05:15 PM

Toolie, look up the NEC code, power needs to be on a 2 pole breaker/fuse. It will work, just not following code.

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