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Sandra

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437 days ago

I’m making progress on my Not So Big Workbench from Fine Woodworking.

I spent the better part of today wrestling with a big ole slab of walnut. Resawing it was no a pleasant endeavour, but I got it done.

In the picture, I just have the drawer fronts stacked up on each other so that I don’t mess up the order. In doing so though, it looks like they are not going to be square to the drawer boxes. Then it occurred to me that I did sand down the bottom supporting stretcher, because one corner of one of the drawer boxes was catching.
That could cause one of the drawer boxes to be sitting off kilter, but both boxes are off…

So where do I go from here? Do I just adjust the space in between the drawer fronts to accommodate the angle?
The plans call for installing the pulls next, but I don’t want those to look ‘off’ either.

Any suggestion are appreciated. Once this sucker is done, I know it will get used and abused, but I’m learning a lot by building it and want to get it right.

Thanks

-- No, I don't want to buy the pink hammer.


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#1 posted 437 days ago

if the drawers themselves are working ok
the fronts can be brought to square to look right
even if the top and bottom one
need to be slightly tapered to fit the face frame
you might have to use slightly thicker shims
to get the look you want balanced all around

i usually get them all lined where i like them
with the shims in place
and removing the top ones down
place their corresponding shims with each front
in the place they belong for later
so they don’t get mixed up

and starting with the bottom one
use double tape to secure it there
and add the next shims for the second one up
and tape it too
and the top one too

then carefully opening the drawers and using some clamps
to hold the face tight to the drawer
pilot from the back and screw the drawer to the front
with the right sizes screws

a few whacks with a rubber mallet if needed here or there
after you like it then do the handles
many might need longer machine screws than what comes with the handles

there are special hardware and screws to do this out there
but for these drawers not worth the trouble
unless you get in bulk and have that for other later builds

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle

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#2 posted 437 days ago

Sandra I am going to assume a bit.
You drawer carcases are separate from the fronts.
If they are and work smoothly in the carcass. Set the fronts all in like you have pictured and start from the bottom.
I would get the placement and spacing set on the bottom ones. Then attach the drawer case to them while they are set in the carcass. Then do the middle ones and do the same. Then the top.
You have to get the spacing right or they will look OFF. They look pretty close.
You will have to work with what you have and hope the grain direction works out. You only have a little fudge room to remove with a plane.
I hope that makes sense.
What you are doing is one of the hardest things to learn. Like setting a house door for the first time.

-- Superdav "No matter where you go - there you are." http://chiselandforge.com

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#3 posted 437 days ago

David was typing while I was.
What he said.

-- Superdav "No matter where you go - there you are." http://chiselandforge.com

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Sandra

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#4 posted 437 days ago

Thanks so much. That makes perfect sense.

I had considered tapering the drawer fronts, but it hadn’t occurred to me to just do the top and bottom ones. The centre one would be too obvious. The recessed drawer pulls I’m using are square also. Rather than putting them on now, I think I’ll follow your advice, do the pilots, mark for the pulls and go from there.

The shims in the picture were put there just to see how far out of square the fronts were.

-- No, I don't want to buy the pink hammer.

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DIYaholic

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#5 posted 437 days ago

What they said!!!

BTW: That WILL be a sharp looking work bench!!!

-- Randy-- I may not be good...but I am slow! If good things come to those who wait.... Why is procratination a bad thing?

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#6 posted 437 days ago

Chad has a good tip.

-- Superdav "No matter where you go - there you are." http://chiselandforge.com

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#7 posted 437 days ago

also if you taper the bottom one
do both sides together
and make sure they are straight across the top
then on up the same

don’t want one side right
and the other looking ok too
but not in line with other side

the dark lines between them will expose everything
it wants to look even everywhere

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle

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#8 posted 437 days ago

Some adjusting can be done with a hand plane to true it up if you are wanting it perfect. But no one will notice the imperfections but you. Otherwise you have good directions from Dave and David. Sounds like a Broadway musical team. LOL!

You have come a long way!

-- Cau Haus Designs, Thomas J. Tieffenbacher

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#9 posted 437 days ago

The drawers and the fronts are separate. There are two large boxes that hold three drawers each, and the drawers are all hung and work well. I know that the fronts don’t have to be perfectly square to the drawers themselves, but they are not square to the carcass.

Trying to upload a picture…

-- No, I don't want to buy the pink hammer.

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#10 posted 437 days ago

-- No, I don't want to buy the pink hammer.

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#11 posted 437 days ago

I’m thinking this is where something went wrong…. I drug those boxes out of the carcass and shoved them back in so many times, I must have knocked them out of square.

Thanks again gents.

-- No, I don't want to buy the pink hammer.

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#12 posted 437 days ago

Impressive progress Sandra, congratulations on your persistence

and the growing of your woodworking skills!

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#13 posted 437 days ago

You probably know to check diagonally from corner to corner.

-- Cau Haus Designs, Thomas J. Tieffenbacher

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#14 posted 437 days ago

The first thing I would do is take those shims out. They look messy. I’m surprised you didn’t know that you were supposed to remove them when you were done. And it looks like you forgot to put on the knobs too…

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#15 posted 437 days ago

Coffee, Stumpy. Go pour yourself some coffee.

-- No, I don't want to buy the pink hammer.

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