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437 days ago

My name is Dan Shauger,

I am looking for someone who would like a way to make some extra money by making some simple wood turnings for me. The material can be any knot free material even pine or whatever scraps you may have. I will supply a detailed plan if we can connect later. It is suffice to say that the part would be turned from 3/4” X 3/4” by 12” stock, it will have a simple taper, and a short smaller diameter section at the small end giving it a shoulder.

This is for a sports training device that I am marketing starting very soon. At first I would purchase a small number of these and over time the orders should increase to the point of bringing whoever does these some extra money.

The turnings need to be consistent in size and shape and smooth, but need not be super slick in finish.

I can be contacted at golfprodan@rocketmail.com for more details


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#1 posted 437 days ago

Whatever scraps you have must be knot free 3/4” x 3/4” x12” consistent size, shape, with simple taper and smooth. Finish need not be super slick.

You want to purchase a small number now and over time orders should increase to a point person making these will make some extra money.

Without seeing, a picture can tell you would have to purchase wood to make these items. I never start a project like this without payment for material cost up front that is non-refundable. Here is a list of fees I charge.

1. shop fee varies
2. materials wood & finishing supplies vary
3. labor $20 to $30 per hour
4. Special tooling if any
5. Shipping fees if any
Dan, will gladly give you a written estimate of your total up-front and final cost on your initial order.

-- Bill

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#2 posted 436 days ago

Thank you for replying to my post.

I am not interested in doing this by a costs plus basis, only a by the piece price. Turn one unit and time yourself, give me a per piece price and we can do business.This is a very simple turning to do and can be made from any type of wood scraps.

The piece is .570” diameter at the fat end .470” at the end of the taper 10 1/16” for the tapered portion at the small end there is a straight section turned to .360” and that straight section is 1-1/4 ” long. The sizes need not be exactly precise plus or minus 1/32” is fine on all dimensions. There is no need for a finish, simply sanded smooth or turned to a smooth surface with some tool marks is acceptable if they are small. I need a price on 100 units. Shipping can be using the US post office Priority mail in flat rate box or boxes as needed, and I will pay for it. After the first batch I will purchase more as needed. I expect to need thousands.

Dan

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#3 posted 436 days ago

I have the single pass stuff still packed away but I would be interested.

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#4 posted 435 days ago

Dan, not so long ago, if you provided precut billets might get those items made for between here $2.50 to $5 per unit. Today no one can afford to do what you want for less than $20 per unit.

Good luck Dan!

-- Bill

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#5 posted 435 days ago

WW where do you live! I need to move there to retire! these are half the length with details and a drilled hole. if I could get one fourth of what you suggest I would already have retired.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PycgbO4tK0&feature=player_detailpage

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#6 posted 434 days ago

REO, before you e-mail Dan to make some extra money do a search for custom wood spindles online. Most of those folks could fill a hundred unit order in one day. They prefer 1000 unit orders, and set up to produce them. How many people posting here including myself set up to produce that kind of service and produce in volume?

Those people going to want a line drawing, money up front, and your signature on a contract whether they make fifty or million units! Will Dan pay less than $20 per unit initially? Perhaps a little less than $20 per unit but not much.

I have no problem turning things like pen for servicemen, churches or other groups at no cost to them. When selling my work charge what think market willing to pay for my turnings. Along the way learned want money up front and signed contract for special orders.

REO, why hasn’t Dan contacted any of those custome turning spindle folks?

-- Bill

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#7 posted 434 days ago

WW the vid is one of mine. I guess I am one of those in between production turners. I can turn one piece or a thousand. you are correct for a mega spindle house they want tooling costs or program time and all that up front.
I do not consider myself an artist, just a woodturner. I charge a fair price for my work. For the description he has given I think it is a pretty simple piece. It will have a tendency to chatter because of the slender length but that is what single pass tooling is all about. The lathe I have has paid for itself easily 100,000 times so I cant charge an equipment fee lol. Even if you figure material at 4.00 a board foot and a thick blade on a table saw for cutting blanks that is less than .50 per blank. You are suggesting that it will take 45 minutes to an hour/piece to run these? I hope Dan finds his answer but if I get the lathe set up and running in the new shop soon enough I will take a shot at them.

For 4 custom patterned 4×4 legs 32” long customer supplied blank I charge @35.00each for the first four @20.00each/ set four after that in a run. 20.00 set up fee for return orders.

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daytonadan

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#8 posted 433 days ago

Hi Reo, I will be awaiting your reply. I am pleased with your reply to a buttinski.
What he does and charges is his business, what we do is ours. Dan

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daytonadan

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#9 posted 433 days ago

Hi again Reo, I cannot send you a message directly since I do not yet have 5 posts. However I can easily be reached by phone at 702 413 4373 If you call and I don’t answer it is because I simply can’t at that time. Leave a number and I will call back.
Dan

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#10 posted 433 days ago

I don’t see a buttinski, but I see a butthead.

-- Wish I were Norm's Nephew

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#11 posted 433 days ago

give me a week or so to sort the lathe. since I pulled it apart for the move I thought I would upgrade the drive from the rolling grip clutch to a horton air activated clutch/brake. Short cycling the motor can lead to early failure so I like to leave it running between peices. Lets watch the namecalling guys no reason to crumble the cookies. WW I did not mean to be offensive although after reading back through I can see where it could have been taken that way. I get jobs frequently from people who have been quoted wild prices, either by “artists” or those who do not have the capability to make parts quickly. Another facet of my involvement in woodworking is helping others make their products more efficiently and effective use of their equipment. Ive been turning comercialy since I was seven. Sometimes I get bull headed particularily when it comes to turning and corresponding equipment and tools. My appologies.

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#12 posted 433 days ago

REO, no apologies necessary simply straight talk from a professional woodturner. Have worked on and still have access to both Vega with copy attachment and one without, also machines like yours.

Feel Dan does not fully understand what he is asking for, but since considered a buttinski and possible butthead, not sure who nailbanger referring too nor care. Think you understand what am saying about Dan, so will bow out of this thread.

Good luck!

-- Bill

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