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Forum topic by Mark posted 05-16-2013 08:41 PM 722 views 0 times favorited 12 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Mark

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05-16-2013 08:41 PM

Morning all. I getting ready to finish a cherry console table and I’m quite bumfuzzled about alllllll the different finishes available. I read the post from Quatzee re: Finishing his cherry boxes and either the Danish oil or the shellac sounds good. I’m thinking, if I went with the shellac I would go with an amber rather than the orange as I’m trying to keep the same tone as the 2 book cases I made, so a bit darker rather than orange I guess. But either will require a top coat of clear lacquer. Is that about right? Thank you.

-- Mark


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PurpLev

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#1 posted 05-16-2013 08:52 PM

thats about right – for a console table I would put a top coat of lacquer for better protection (than shellac).

keep in mind, cherry can blotch, you may want to start with a conditioner or a blotch control coat first.

-- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

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nwbusa

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#2 posted 05-16-2013 08:52 PM

I’m no finishing expert, but I’ve had blotching issues before when finishing cherry with oils. Others have reported better luck by applying a washcoat of shellac to the bare wood, before applying the oil finish. Zinsser Sealcoat is an example, but any light cut of dewaxed shellac should work. Good luck and let us know how it turns out.

Edit—Purplev beat me to it!

-- John, BC, Canada

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#3 posted 05-16-2013 09:06 PM

First of all, you only need a preconditioner if you’re planning to stain your piece. Otherwise, you can just use the shellac or lacquer by itself. I believe that amber shellac and orange shellac might be about the same colour. If anything, the orange shellac could be a little bit darker than the amber. Have you considered using garnet shellac? Garnet shellac is much darker than orange or amber shellac. You’d have to buy the dry garnet shellac flakes from an outfit like Lee Valley tools and mix them with denatured alcohol, but this is fairly easy to do. Charles Neil has a video posted on youtube which explains the procedure for mixing shellac. Finally, you can apply lacquer over a thin coat of shellac, but the shellac should be of the dewaxed variety to avoid any possible adhesion problems. Zinsser seal coat is a ready-mixed solution of dewaxed shellac.

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crank49

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#4 posted 05-16-2013 10:23 PM

Don’t forget cherry darkens all by itself, well by itself with the sun’s help.

-- Michael :-{| “If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed.” ― A H

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Mark

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#5 posted 05-16-2013 11:23 PM

I thought the shellac was a sealer/conditioner?
Crank49, over here on the Wet Coast we don’t get a whole hellovalota sun.

-- Mark

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Finisherman

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#6 posted 05-16-2013 11:32 PM

Mark: It can be, if it’s applied as a thin solution. In that case, it’s known as a wash coat.

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#7 posted 05-17-2013 03:02 AM

Charles Neil sells a blotch control. I have used it and can vouch for it.

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Moron

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#8 posted 05-17-2013 03:19 AM

what ever happened to getting a book and reading it

-- "Good artists borrow, great artists steal”…..Picasso

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Moron

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#9 posted 05-17-2013 03:20 AM

or at least read the can

-- "Good artists borrow, great artists steal”…..Picasso

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Moron

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#10 posted 05-17-2013 03:34 AM

tips

inconsistant and poor sanding techniques is the leading cause to fine finishing failure and the path to perfection is expensive or laborious, pick one or both, and their isn’t an “easy” trail, thus why they make plastic laminate so dont be lazy and start being anal about sanding

Nice thing about wood

it never lies

: ))

-- "Good artists borrow, great artists steal”…..Picasso

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Moron

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#11 posted 05-17-2013 03:41 AM

the “art” of sanding isnt taught on bandwidth

its taught with tears

lol

finishing is the prize

-- "Good artists borrow, great artists steal”…..Picasso

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Clint Searl

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#12 posted 05-17-2013 02:24 PM

Sand it to 220, and shoot it with NC or acrylic lacquer. All else is superfluous.

-- Clint Searl....Ya can no more do what ya don't know how than ya can git back from where ya ain't been

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