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PurpLev

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342 days ago

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I’ve been turning odds and ends on my metal lathe for quite some time now, but while it worked to some extent I was never too keen on doing so. the max speed is 1700rpm which is somewhat on the lower end for wood, and the machine and all the gears are properly oiled which attracts and captures wood dust like crazy, and I never liked positioning the hands to work near all the components of the lathe not to mention with my current setup I could not setup a tool rest close enough, or at the right height to properly position the cutter at the right angle or close enough to reduce chatter.

But all that is gone now as I came home with a Delta VS midi lathe which I have been waiting for the right sale to get one:

it’s a little dirty from a couple years worth of use, but otherwise seems operational and beefy. I have the extension table for it which I’m not sure I will be needing due to lack of space, but I still have time to figure that one out.

Now for the question -

I have a spur drive and a live center. up until now on my metal lathe I would either use a 4 jaw (metal) chuck, or a mandrel. I will probably use a mandrel for pen turning, but for small vessels/cups/bowls I was wondering – do you guys find that you use chucks or plates more? pros/cons or better yet – likes/dislikes?

trying to figure out if I should get a chuck (either Nova G3/Delta rebranded, or similar) or stick to plates. what say you?

EDIT:

Just found this and thought I’d share it – it’s a good source of documents RE turning and lathe work. good read:
http://kurthertzog.com/demos.htm

-- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.


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Karson

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#1 posted 342 days ago

You might also look at Beall tools

He has a tap which allows you to screw your wood onto the spindle.

-- I've been blessed with a father who liked to tinker in wood, and a wife who lets me tinker in wood. Southern Delaware karson_morrison@bigfoot.com †

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Kreegan

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#2 posted 342 days ago

Nice score on the lathe. Lots of people love that Delta 46-460. For your question, I’d have to say that I use both. I use a faceplate to rough turn bowls and boxes, turn either a tenon or a recess and then rechuck in a scroll chuck.

There’s no reason you couldn’t do it all with faceplates, but it’s a lot less convenient and will require some hoop jumping. You’ll have to make something like a doughnut chuck or longworth chuck in order to finish off the bottom of bowls and vessels, if you want to do the faceplate only thing. It’s certainly doable though.

My recommendation would be to try to catch the Supernova2 boxed set they sell at Woodcraft with multiple jaws on sale. You can frequently find it for 200. The main advantage of the Delta rebranded one is that it has a grub screw to secure the chuck for reverse operation. You have enough machinist skills to drill a hole and tap it for a grub screw though.

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Kreegan

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#3 posted 342 days ago

Karson brings up a good idea. Beall sells a 1×8 tap that you can use to make your own chucks. I have one and have used it to make a couple of jam chucks that work really well. I think it’s around 20 bucks or so.

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lew

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#4 posted 342 days ago

If you have machine shop contacts, you can probably pick up a dull 1×8 tap for a little bit of nothing.

I have been using the NOVA Precision Midi Chuck. It has two “bars” used for tightening the work. Some folks would rather have the T-handle tightening but I’ve never had a problem with the bars.

-- Lew- Time traveler. Purveyor of the Universe's finest custom rolling pins.

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Lenny

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#5 posted 342 days ago

Hi Sharon. Sorry, I have never done that type of lathe work (faceplate, etc.). I just want to say congrats on acquiring the tool! Best wishes with it.

-- On the eighth day God was back in His woodworking shop! Lenny, East Providence, RI

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PurpLev

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#6 posted 342 days ago

Thanks for the feedback everyone.

That beall tap doesn’t look too bad as an option. and a chuck for finishing the bottoms would make sense.

The Nova Midi chuck looks like would be a good fit with the internal threading (no threaded adapter) and it’s price range.

-- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

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ShaneA

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#7 posted 342 days ago

You can catch those Nova G3s on sale from time to time at Woodcraft. They will include a set of four jaws or so, seems to make it a little more value oriented with all the jaws included.

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SCOTSMAN

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#8 posted 342 days ago

I also have the small delta I use primarily for pens don’t try anything too ambitious with it I have heard a lot of people coming to grief with the motor burning out still it does bigger things if your capable of working slowly and taking your time. Alistair have fun

-- excuse my typing as I have a form of parkinsons disease

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#9 posted 342 days ago

It all depends on what you want to make. There are all kinds of good videos out there for wood turning. I have one by Del Stubs that was very helpful when I started to learn. Mike Mahoney and Richard Raffan are experts and have different styles that can show you different ways of doing things. (Faceplates, chucks, vacuuming, etc.) As you learn, you’ll see the possibilities are endless. Just remember to keep it fun and not get frustrated when you make mistakes. Good luck in your quest!

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PurpLev

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#10 posted 342 days ago

Thanks. I am definitely not in a rush for various reasons. I see the supernova2 on sale at WC with all jaws but I cannot select it for some reason. that said, it’s a mighty hefty chuck whereas the midi is lighter (less strain on the spindle). maybe I’ll stop by there sometime to see then in person (always helps).

I will probably be turning pens and small bowls/cups/spindles as I mentioned above. not looking to turn anything too large, and am not looking to be too aggressive with it either. this is more to turn with my daughter, or for small projects from time to time. strictly for fun. I have been turning in 0.060 – 0.002 range on metal projects, so I’m sure this will run faster ;) (to reiterate – I have been turning wood before, just in a different setting).

-- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

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b2rtch

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#11 posted 342 days ago

Sharon, send a PM to Horizontal Mike, he just went through all the same stuff , he would give you good advices.

-- Bert

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woodworkerforchrist

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#12 posted 342 days ago

Nice!!! Hoping to get one too someday. Have fun!!

-- Marty from MinneSNOWta

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Worth

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#13 posted 342 days ago

I think they should give us the lathes for what we end up spending on turning tools, chucks, mandrels and such.
I paid $300 for an older Jet 1236. Speed variable control thru belt pulley width. It works fine with speeds from about 400 to 2500 rpm. I bought a Nova chuck and added a stubby drive center that allows me to leave the chuck mounted. When the piece you are turning is securely mounted in the chuck, turning is much safer. All turning starts between centers. Most of my early work was spindle turning, and now I am doing some bowls and hollowed forms. I am now thinking on upgrading to Jet’s new 1221 because of reversing, index head, and VS speed control with 1 HP motor. Be careful…turning is habit forming. :) Nova came out with a new chuck with quick-change jaws that you may want to consider.

-- Worth, East Texas

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PurpLev

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#14 posted 342 days ago

Yup, the machine is just the tease… the real $$$ is in the toolings/accessories/etc.

-- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

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Mauricio

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#15 posted 342 days ago

Nice Lathe Purp!

I’m in the same boat and had the same question. If I dont plan on turning large bowls do I need a chuck? Maybe just some small boxes. Can I get a buy with one of those cheap 2” chucks they sell at Harbor Freight?

-- Mauricio - Woodstock, GA - "Confusion is the Womb of Learning, with utter conviction being it's Tomb" Prof. T.O. Nitsch

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