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Forum topic by Matt posted 05-15-2013 01:27 AM 6071 views 0 times favorited 7 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Matt

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05-15-2013 01:27 AM

I found this old framing square in my grandparent’s house last year, brought it home, cleaned it, hung it up and thought nothing of it.

In the past year, I’ve taken a few carpentry classes (framing, not woodworking), and become more curious about this square. I’ve noticed that aside from it’s shape, it’s nothing like the ones I’ve been using in class.

It does not have rafter tables, decimal-fraction conversions, or different scales on it. All it has is the inch markings, scaled in 16ths, and Essex Board measure tables. It’s a No. 14, Made in USA, and solid steel.

Anyone know anything about this? How old would this be? Why the Essex board feet table, but no rafter tables?

I found a book online called “How to Use the Stanley Rafter Square,” published in 1949, but this shows the Stanley R100, which has different scales, rafter tables, brace measures, octagon scales, and the Essex board measure table.

I found nothing about this on google; I believe people care more about old planes and saws than they do old rafter squares, but hopefully someone here knows!


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#1 posted 05-15-2013 01:33 AM

Sounds like a scalers rule rather than a framing square.

Got any pictures?

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#2 posted 05-15-2013 01:58 AM

Nice grab. I have a couple of old ones but I’m pretty sure they have rafter tables on them . One may not. All the carpenters I have known never used or needed the tables anyway. The eight scale was a little more usefull on these squares. Yours is likely worn beyond recognition though.

I have a real reverence for the framing square as I made my living with one in the early days. Enjoy ! JB

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#3 posted 05-15-2013 02:06 AM

Blade is 24’’ long, 2’’ wide, tongue is 16’’ long, 1 1/2’’ wide. Standard framing square size.

The handbook lists the squares Stanley had available in ‘49. It has the No. 14 listed along with its measurements and that it is polished (as opposed to blued, aluminum, stainless, or royal copper) and has Essex board measure tables on it.

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#4 posted 05-15-2013 02:08 AM

According to Walter’s book – the #14 framing square was made from 1911-1974, was polished or blued, and came in two versions – yours, without the tables and the R14 that had the tables.
Size 24×16 to 24×18.

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#5 posted 05-15-2013 02:34 AM

Dallas- google, again, returned barely anything about scalers rules. I can gather that it has to deal with estimating or finding board feet of a log during the milling process.

cabmaker- yeah this is a pretty cool find, I just have a soft spot for old, strong tools. Of course, a framing square is not a striking or cutting tool, but this thing just feels durable. It does have a slight bend in the blade and still some rust and dings in it, but is still good for a straightedge, checking square, and layout of rafters and stairs.

I’m just really curious about the purpose of this. Dallas is probably right, it could be intended more for milling rather than framing.

JustJoe- Thanks for that. I sent this question to Stanley, too; I’ll let you all know if/when I get a reply.

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#6 posted 05-16-2013 05:01 PM

Got a message back from Stanley; they told me what JustJoe did, that this square was made from 1911-1974.

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#7 posted 06-30-2014 08:24 PM

First thing I learned way back in high school was that a framing square could solve most difficult geometry problems pronto. I was hooked ! I’m a math-loving engineer, and the people who invented these fine calculating tools two centuries before the microchip have my utmost respect. Plus they look so cool !

If interested in an easy learning tool, check out Essential Guide to the Steel Square by Ken Horner. http://www.amazon.com/Essential-Guide-Steel-Square-Problem-Solving/dp/1565233425/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1404156758&sr=8-1&keywords=framing+square+books

His explanations of the requisite math tools are crystal clear, and he provides plenty of examples and problems to give one a sense of immediate competence. Happy exploring !

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