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Forum topic by bandit571 posted 05-12-2013 02:43 AM 1028 views 0 times favorited 10 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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bandit571

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05-12-2013 02:43 AM

Topic tags/keywords: plane

Just got one of these in the mail the other day.

Inside that bubble wrap is a very oily, very heavy, number 4 hand plane.

Got 99% of the oil wiped off, gave the iron a few swipes on the leather strop.

Not too bad for right out of the box?

Ok, took it back apart. Wiped more oil off of things. Looked it over real close. The flat area where the blade rests in the mouth opening had some scalloped areas on the left side. Machining marks?

Had to adjust the frog back a bit. Then loosen the right frog bolt, adjust the center bolt until frog sits square to the opening. Used almost all of the depth adjustor’s bolt to set the depth with

Chipbreaker is set about 1-2mm back from the iron’s edge. Too close, maybe?

Iron’s back needed to be flattened a bit, not much though

then I flipped it over and honed the bevel. Installed everything back in place, and gave it a test drive, again

on the Maple 2x scrap wood. Not too bad? Sides are square to the sole, and no gap under the square when I check side to side. I used a straight edge along the length ( with everything clamped up tight) and the toe and heel stood up just a hair. Maybe I should check with things relaxed in the plane? There was just a hint of light showing with things clamped up.

Handle bolt: Two out of three were just a hair loose. Once tightened back down, handles felt comfy, and solid.

Seems to be a decent enough #4 smoother …...

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use


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Deycart

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#1 posted 05-12-2013 03:14 AM

Bandit, you must have a zillion #4 planes. Why did you get the river? How does it compare to a dunlap or a craftsman? I has to be better right?

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#2 posted 05-12-2013 03:31 AM

As of right now, headcount for the #4 sized planes.

1) Millers Falls #9
2)Millers Falls #900 V-line
3) Dunlap #4D BB by Millers Falls
4)Wood River #4 V3

All of the irons are sharpened up the same way, with flat, polished bached backs, and 25 degree main bevel. Soles are flat. The WR is about an inch longer, and almost twice the weight as the others.

I was “Awarded” the WR as “Feature member of the month” at another site. Had My pick of either the WR#4 V3, or the WR low angle Block plane. Got enough block planes…

AS for shavings out of these planes, since you have seen the stuff from the WR..

The M-F #900 V-Line. It has a cracked frog, to boot. Next

The Dunlap #4 D BB from about WWII era. Basically a M-F # 90. Next

Sitting in front is a Millers Falls #9, also from that WWII era.

Just depends on which one is closest to my hand…..

Still getting to know the WR, seems to be a good one. The Millers Falls ones were good planes, back when these were made. Main difference seems to be in the frogs. The WR has a Bedrock style frog.

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use

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Deycart

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#3 posted 05-12-2013 03:36 AM

I tuned a Miller Falls No. 4 WW2 era and gave it to a buddy. I wish I held onto it. I planes just as well at my bedrock. My other No. 4s are not nearly as well tuned.

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#4 posted 05-14-2013 01:41 PM

Ok, part two of this story:

Got to checking things over. Something just wasn’t right with the chipbreaker

Almost like it is too short? Compared it to a Millers Falls iron/ chipbreaker

See any difference? Set the WR #4V3 up to take the M-F #90 parts, and then a test drive

Note where the wheel is? I then set up the WR Iron/ CB onto the M-F #90. I had to set the chipbreaker BACK almost 1/2” from the edge of the iron. Just to get the same thin shavings.

Called Woodcraft, talked awhile. Result is… another plane is on the way. I then use a label they send along to ship the old one back to them, on their dime. Great service! I did lay the two ( WR and M-F ) chipbreakers side by side. WR stops just about where the “hump” in the M-F chipbreaker starts.

Other than this trouble with the short chipbreaker, this is still a very nice plane. Everything else about this plane I LIKE!

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use

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Deycart

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#5 posted 05-14-2013 03:26 PM

I have read that this was a common problem. You must have gotten some old inventory.

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#6 posted 05-14-2013 07:02 PM

Good service from woodcraft, but another shoddy import.
For me there’s only three manufactured planes I’d even consider; LN, Veritas, or a tuned vintage from one of the regulars.

-- He who dies with the most tools... dies with the emptiest wallet.

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#7 posted 05-14-2013 07:17 PM

I have been comparing this with my 60-70 yearold Millers Falls planes. I have three in the #4 size. All are tuned up, too. Might have been unfair to the Wood River plane?

It IS a very good plane, when all the correct parts are there. I could slip a M-F iron/chipbreaker/lever cap in it, and do just fine. While the iron is nice and thick, I have a Hibbards True Value #3 that has a thicker one.

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use

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bandit571

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#8 posted 05-16-2013 06:09 PM

Part Three:

Replacement plane has arrived! Right out of the box ( other than set the depth, and remove the oil)

Sending the “old’ one back, on their dime. Shavings were right out of the box

and are from some Black Cherry scrap I had in the shop.

I think I LIKE this plane!

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use

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#9 posted 05-16-2013 06:12 PM

Nice, Bandit. I’m glad you got the replacement. So is there anything different other than the chipbreaker? Do you have a photo of the two chipbreakers side-by-side?

-- "hold fast to that which is good"

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#10 posted 05-16-2013 06:16 PM

There is very little difference between the two, mainly towards the front, MAYBE a 1/16th longer is all. All settings are factory, all I did was adjust for depth. And still had threads left.

Me Likey!

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use

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