LumberJocks

Thinking about taking my craftsman 113 model table saw apart...

  • Advertise with us

« back to Power Tools, Hardware and Accessories forum

Forum topic by camps764 posted 05-10-2013 11:53 AM 1038 views 0 times favorited 9 replies Add to Favorites Watch
View camps764's profile

camps764

800 posts in 1046 days


05-10-2013 11:53 AM

Have been seeing a lot of folks on here taking them apart, cleaning them, and putting them back together again.

Now I’m considering it as well.

How much trouble am I asking for?

The guiding motivation is the trunion alignment. Mine is the kind that is mounted to the table top as opposed to the cabinet. You have to beat the hell out of it to get it aligned. Managed to get it aligned pretty close to perfect a while back. Works wonderfully with a standard blade, but I realized the other day that it is now too far to the left (from the cut side) making it impossible to use my dado stack.

The only way to move it back (far as I can tell) is to pull it apart and reassemble.

Thought it might be a good opportunity to clean and lube everything, following the factory (manual) instructions.

Any thoughts?

-- Steve. Visit my website http://www.campbellwoodworking.com


9 replies so far

View Tedstor's profile

Tedstor

1369 posts in 1318 days


#1 posted 05-10-2013 01:20 PM

I doubt a total disassembly will accomplish much. I’d pony-up $20 for a PALS kit. If that doesn’t solve an alignment issue, I’m not sure that anything will. I considered buying a kit for my 113, but managed getting mine aligned without. I SLIGHTLY loosened the trunion bolts, leaving them rather snug (if not tight). Then using a mallet and 1” dowel rod, I tapped the trunion into position. Then re-torqued the bolts.
But admittedly, I don’t understand how a dado stack won’t properly fit? Is it rubbing against the table insert (aka zero clearance insert)? If so, just modify the insert or make a new one. That’d be the easiest solution for an otherwise well-running saw.

Oh, but to answer the question. Disassembling these machines is not hard. And is a good opportunity to thouroghly clean and lube all the moving parts. However, I wouldn’t bother with dasassembly unless I had a true mechanical reason to do so. I recommend using dry-lube or motorcycle chain lube since it doesn’t attract dust and debris.

View toolie's profile

toolie

1768 posts in 1314 days


#2 posted 05-10-2013 01:45 PM

You have to beat the hell out of it to get it aligned.

i own two of those saws. one is a c-man, the other a cousin, emerson built ridgid. all i’ve ever had to do was losen the trunions bolts (all 6 of them), leaving one in a front corner somewhat snug and gently tap the rear trunion until the blade was parallel to a miter slot. and both their alignments aren’t close to parallel. they are dead on.

you must be doing something seriously wrong. humbly suggest reviewing the OM for alignment instructions.

-- there's a solution to every problem.......you just have to be willing to find it.

View IrreverentJack's profile

IrreverentJack

724 posts in 1529 days


#3 posted 05-10-2013 02:46 PM

Taking it apart will make it much easier to lubricate and make sure everything is operating smoothly. You will also be able to determine if you can shift the trunnions over enough to accommodate your dado stack and generally get a better feel for how things work. When I took my Craftsman apart I put bicycle inner tube between the table and enclosure and the enclosure and base. I think this makes the saw quieter. -Jack

View dschlic1's profile

dschlic1

179 posts in 655 days


#4 posted 05-10-2013 08:40 PM

On my 113 Craftsman TS both the front and rear trunions are adjustable. You might not have the front ones centered.

View camps764's profile

camps764

800 posts in 1046 days


#5 posted 05-10-2013 10:23 PM

Thanks for all of the input guys!

I’ve gone back and forth on the PALS thing…maybe I’ll just go ahead and do it.

You could be correct, I might be doing something wrong. Mine has never been very easy to adjust. That’s part of what has me thinking about taking it apart, getting everything re-aligned, lubed, etc.

I bought it second hand (maybe 4th or 5th, who really knows) so it has had years of other owners whacking on it and what not.

I should have been a little more specific, my dado stack won’t fit with my current throat plate. A new ZCI would definitely do that trick.

Maybe I’ll bite the bullet on Sunday evening and work on it throughout next week.

Jack – I really like the tube idea and will give that a shot. I think taking it apart will give me a chance to make sure everything is connect and snug as well.

Thanks again everyone!

-- Steve. Visit my website http://www.campbellwoodworking.com

View rctalmage's profile

rctalmage

9 posts in 1471 days


#6 posted 05-10-2013 10:30 PM

Pals did the trick on mine. I had to whack it pretty hard to get it aligned, only to find I hit it too hard. I found the PALS easy to install and has kept my saw aligned for a couple of years.

-- John 3:16

View camps764's profile

camps764

800 posts in 1046 days


#7 posted 05-10-2013 10:51 PM

rctalmage – Sounds like my saw! PALS it is!

-- Steve. Visit my website http://www.campbellwoodworking.com

View dschlic1's profile

dschlic1

179 posts in 655 days


#8 posted 05-11-2013 10:59 PM

The 113 comes with two inserts, one for a normal blade and another for dado blade. Size of the openings are different. Dado slot is shorter but wider.

View RibsBrisket4me's profile

RibsBrisket4me

1376 posts in 1191 days


#9 posted 05-12-2013 07:23 PM

I loosened all my trunion bolts but one, then got the blade into alignment. I also have Pals, but found the Pals kept me from tilting my blade to 45 degrees, so I took it off.

-- http://www.PictureTrail.com/gid6255915

Have your say...

You must be signed in to reply.

DISCLAIMER: Any posts on LJ are posted by individuals acting in their own right and do not necessarily reflect the views of LJ. LJ will not be held liable for the actions of any user.

Latest Projects | Latest Blog Entries | Latest Forum Topics

HomeRefurbers.com

Latest Projects | Latest Blog Entries | Latest Forum Topics

GardenTenders.com :: gardening showcase