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trippcasey

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05-09-2013 05:55 PM

Im in the Southeast GA and Northeast Fl area. Here we seem to have no steady supply of hardwood, and the prices are all over the board.

Walnut finish cut and planed is $30 a bf Really? Thats Woodcraft’s price.

My question is: What is a fair price for hardwoods in your area? Specifically walnut, poplar, red/white oak, and cherry for small orders less than 100bf.

One of the reasons I ask is because I have access to these, but they are 6 hours away at my dads. He has a sawmill, and an abundance of trees that people are willing to let him cut and haul away from their land. Last time I went up there, I came home with over 1500bf of decent quality lumber. I am thinking about hauling a few loads down here to sell to people like me, who just want small quantities here and there. I have no idea what the price for these woods are anywhere, especially here because it varies from source to source, most of them being people who ran across a little here and want to sell some to pay for what they got, or they had to buy 300bf to get the 120 they wanted. Can you guys help me a little here to see if this is worth looking into please? If anything it will help me keep nice wood in my shop, and supply some quality hardwoods to the other hobbiests in my area. That would be worth it to me anyway….but a little change for some tool upgrades would be good too.

Thanks in advance!

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Fred Hargis

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#1 posted 05-09-2013 06:11 PM

Kiln dried prices at my supplier are (all 4/4, flat sawn)
Poplar: $1.55 (Select and $1.07 (#1 com)
Walnut: $4.67 (select) and $2.67 (#1 com)
Cherry: $3.33 (select) and $2.27 (#1 com)
Red Oak: $2.10 (select) and $1.67 (#1 com)
White Oak $2.53 (select) and $1.64 (#1 com)

You realize there are a million things that affect price, and my supplier specializes in quarter sawn and rift sawn…those prices go up to the $6-$8 price range, and they go up[ for thicker cuts as well. This is all kiln dried wood as well. Good luck with your venture. I live in the NW Ohio area, and my supplier is in east central IN.

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#2 posted 05-09-2013 06:19 PM

Give Hood Distribution in Jacksonville, Fl a call. I have purchased 8/4 cherry there for IRC, for under $4.00 BF
I do not know how much the walnut is and I don’t think the sell highly figured lumber. The have a HUGE warehouse full of lumber.

3160 W. 45th St
Jacksonville, Fl 32209
904-783-0170
800-346-0922
904-783-1577
PM me if you have any questions. I have been able to buy one board @ a time.

-- Jerry

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Tugboater78

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#3 posted 05-09-2013 06:22 PM

Central kentucky the prices run about the same as Fred, about a quarter cheaper across the boardthough.
The one i have dealt with deals with anyone, big or small.

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#4 posted 05-09-2013 06:23 PM

I’m at the opposite corner of the country from you, Northwest WA, so I don’t know how relevant our prices are. I have two places within 60 miles that carry hardwood. One with a limited variety the other with everything from alder to zebra. Yesterday, at the latter, I bought 15 bf of cherry for 80 bucks (5.39/bf s2s). I usually get walnut there for $6 – $7 a bf/s2s. While I was there I looked at some figured hard maple that was $10/bf but didn’t bite (thinking now that I wish I had). The walnut and maple are non-native here and I don’t think the cherry is the same as the wild cherry that grows in the woods around here (I need someone to educate me on that point). I’ve always assumed that my cost for hardwood is higher because it’s not local.

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#5 posted 05-09-2013 06:35 PM

Here in MN, this what I generally see from small mills that I deal with:

Poplar: Never purchased
Walnut: $5-$6.50 (s&b)
Cherry: $3-4.50 (s&b)
Red Oak: $1-2 (s&b)
White Oak: $3ish

Walnut is around $8.50 (4/4) and $12 (8/4) at Rockler/Woodcraft type of places. Cherry is about twice the cost as well. I dont recall seeing prices on Oak.

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#6 posted 05-09-2013 06:36 PM

I live in NM. I have two sources for Hardwood. Santa Fe, 45min drive, outrageous prices. Albuquerque, 1.5 hrs, better selection and better prices, but still high, although I can get volume discounts usually at the 100bd/ft level.

Your idea of selling locally sound like a good potential business opportunity. You should do a bit more research to see if it’s viable.

Pricing that I recall over the past year for small orders that were under 100 bd/ft.

Walnut – $7 – 8 bd/ft, changes often. I’ve not seen boards locally more then 6” wide.

Poplar – $2-$3 bd/ft- Wide boards are a premium.

Red oak – $2.50 – $3 bd/ft

White Oak $3 to 4$ bd/ft

White Oak quarter sawn $6 $7 bd/ft

Never bought any Cherry from this supplier.

If I need large quantities, special orders (quarter sawn stock, large slabs etc…) and better pricing I need to drive 6hrs to Colorado or Arizona. I guess I’m just use to this now, and have accepted this as one of the costs of my hobby.

-- Nicky

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#7 posted 05-09-2013 07:39 PM

I’m not sure what part of Georgia WDLT15 is located in but he’s a Sawyer and is very knowledgable. You coul send him a PM and see what his prices are like.

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#8 posted 05-09-2013 08:25 PM

Fred Hargis, I live in east central Indiana. Who is your supplier?

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dschlic1

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#9 posted 05-09-2013 09:28 PM

Check out Intercity Lumber ( http://www.intercitylumber.com/) in Tampa. They post lumber prices online.

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trippcasey

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#10 posted 05-10-2013 12:57 AM

Thanks fellows! As usual, the LJ’s are better than Google for good information.

I think Ill start with bringing a nice load down and just make a few posts on cl advertising it. Even if it doesnt sell, it will still be worth the trip. Its nice to have enough lumber for a project or four in your barn.

Gerald, I am going to look them up. Ill also look you up when I bring some more wood down. Im in OP a lot, and spend most of the work week in between Jax and Daytona. Id give you a project pack or something so you could give me a review on the wood. A professional opinion.

Thanks again!

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#11 posted 05-10-2013 01:07 AM

I’ve never bought directly from a sawyer since I’m still looking for one. I’m in NE Georgia about 20 miles north of Atlanta. Where is your dad’s mill, maybe I give him some business.

-- ok, is it cut once measure twice, cut twice measure once???? I know....I'll just keep cutting until it's long enough.

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WDHLT15

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#12 posted 05-10-2013 01:08 AM

I am in Perry, GA and I sell hardwood that I have sawn on my sawmill and air dried.

Walnut 4/4 is $3.50 – $4.50/BF based on grade. 8/4 is $6.00/BF.
Yellow poplar 4/4 is $1.50 – $2.50/BF based on grade.
Red oak is 4/4 $1.50 – $2.50/BF based on grade.
Quartersawn white oak 4/4 is $4.00/BF. 8/4 is $6.00/BF.
Quartersawn sycamore 4/4 is $4.00/Bf. 8/4 is $6.00/BF.
Pecan is $3.00/BF. 8/4 is $4.50/BF.

-- Danny Located in Perry, GA. Forester. Wood-Mizer LT15 Sawmill. Nyle L53 Dehumidification Kiln. hamsleyhardwood.com

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#13 posted 05-10-2013 01:27 AM

Poplar $1.90
Red Oak $2.25
White Oak $3.50
Walnut $6.00
Cherry $5.50

Those are the retail avgs. However, I routinely buy walnut less than $2, white oak $1.50, QS Sycamore $2 from a local sawyer. All KD.

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#14 posted 05-10-2013 01:32 AM

Try this place. www.thewoodyard.com. They are located in Griffn,GA

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#15 posted 05-10-2013 01:57 AM

It’ a 45 mile ride but I get my lumber in NH (I’m from Maine) at Highland Hardwoods. A classy warehouse that only does wood and flooring.

Here is a link to a pdf of their prices

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