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noone

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05-09-2013 12:32 AM

I just received my Rockler HPL router table and after futzing with it for several hours, could not get the plate flat in the hole. So upon further investigation, I used my 18” straight edge and ran it front to back on the opening and one end of the straight edge catches on the south edge of the rectangular hole on the table. Then I put the straight edge on the aluminum plate and it rocks in the east west direction, off by about a fat 1/32”.

At any rate, there is really no way for me to adjust this thing so that a piece of wood slides across it from right to left without bumping on the plate either coming into the cut or leaving the cut.

Am I being too picky here? I thought these things were supposed to be flat.



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#1 posted 05-09-2013 12:47 AM

Contact Rockler’s customer service…Generally speaking, they are very good to work with, and odds are they will replace the top ASAP

-- Measure "at least" twice and cut once

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#2 posted 05-09-2013 12:50 AM

+1 on rockler customer service. They’ll make it right.

-- He who dies with the most tools... dies with the emptiest wallet.

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#3 posted 05-09-2013 01:06 AM

Updated my original post with pics.

Rockler has been great to work with so far. Excellent customer service.

They are sending out a replacement. But still…. I hope this was just a one off and not just how they are….

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#4 posted 05-09-2013 01:11 AM

Yep, that’s off a lot…not being picky at all. I know what these sell for (I have one), so they best be flat

-- Measure "at least" twice and cut once

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#5 posted 05-09-2013 04:25 PM

If it ain’t flat, it won’t do what it is supposed to do. Send it back.

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#6 posted 05-09-2013 05:07 PM

Is it just the insert plate? I read somewhere that the plate is a little raised in the center so that the weight of the router will bring it down to be flat. I got the Phenolic one from rockler and it was perfectly flat.

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#7 posted 05-10-2013 12:48 AM

No, it was mostly the table itself as shown in the pics above. Over a 1/16” gap from the edge of the table to the center. Looks like it was sagging in the middle somehow, without even a router on a plate hanging in the center hole. I sent the defective merchandise back to Rockler and I bought a Bench Dog cast iron table instead, since I have heard numerous reports that these things to start to sag in the middle anyways after a few years. I’m assuming that will be flat. :)

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#8 posted 06-23-2013 10:12 PM

Same bad experience with the HPL table, 1/16” lower in the center than front edge-to-back edge and side to side. If it didn’t have the big hole in the middle, would have made a passable bird bath.

Unlike almost all Rockler products, this one isn’t useable, back to Rockler tomorrow.

-- Smitty

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#9 posted 06-24-2013 03:19 AM

That’s not good. I just reordered one that is on back order.

I started pricing out the cost of a router plate, t-track, the mdf, laminate, cement and right there I’m almost at $200, so I may as well try this again.

This last one I ordered came with a free accessory package with all the inserts and feather boards included for $200.

I hope I have better luck this time around.

Let me know how your replacement works out.

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#10 posted 06-25-2013 12:10 AM

Have the same top for a couple years now have the same problem middle of top sagging will be looking for new top someday.

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#11 posted 06-25-2013 02:31 AM

Well, the Rockler folks at Arlington, TX store were most gracious as always and replaced the HPL top without question. The new one is better, but still isn’t perfectly straight, about 0.020 dip in the middle. This as measured with a straightedge that spans the entire top from edge to edge. However, read on please…

In messing with this I actually think that the vinyl edging seems to be contributing to part of the dip since its spline is pressed into a slot in the MDF edge, possibly forcing it up a bit. If the measuring straightedge is kept inside the board edge by an inch or so, the board is very nearly flat, so this one I will keep.

The Vinyl trim also is just a bit ‘proud’ at the top edge, and a few quick passes with my block plane took it down flush with the micarta and enough where I’m OK with this top. Thanks again Rockler.

-- Smitty

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#12 posted 06-25-2013 06:30 PM

I guess that’s encouraging. I could probably live with 0.02 off flat, assuming it has no effect on a long piece of wood i’m pushing through. The Bench Dog cast iron table I recently bought and returned was .012” off. And that’s cast iron.

I’ll have to check on the vinyl edging….

Strange that these things aren’t flatter than this, especially when other HPL owners say there’s is dead flat. I wonder if screwing in some flat angle iron to the bottom would help in flattening and keep it that way?

I sure hope I don’t have to return this one.

On a side note, the Kreg table I checked in my local Woodcraft (we have no Rockler here in FL) was DEAD FLAT. That may be an option for me if this doesn’t pan out. Or I may be back to building my own…. Sigh…..

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#13 posted 06-25-2013 10:22 PM

The angle iron would help definitely.

The kreg table may be flat now, but will it stay flat? It could with proper bracing underneath.

-- He who dies with the most tools... dies with the emptiest wallet.

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#14 posted 06-27-2013 10:09 PM

I just received the new router top. I had to shave off the vinyl trim with a new razor blade just like you.

But mine is still a fat 1/32” out of flat in the center. It’s definitely better than the first one I got, but still. It’s a router table. It should be flatter than this I think. What happens after a router is hanging from it for a year?

Would I be able to push a long piece of wood through this without a curve showing on the profile on the ends of the board with this dip?

Should I just live with this? Am I just being too damn picky?

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#15 posted 06-27-2013 10:33 PM

I actually had a Rockler associate tell me, very quietly, that this was a common problem, when I was thinking about buying this very table. Guy said it was totally not worth the money they were charging for it.

-- http://www.etsy.com/shop/UncannyValleyWoods

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